Posted on 04/07/2018 6:20:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

Democrats in farm states are busily warning their rural neighbors that President Trump betrayed them with his tariff pressures, which may especially impact U.S. farm exports to China. China has imposed a 25 percent tariff on U.S. soybeans, wheat, beef, pork and some other food products. Will this ruin American farm prices?
Be of good cheer. The world prices for soybeans and beef are set by global supply and demand. Soybeans and beef are essentially commodities, not unlike oil. It doesnt really matter whether China buys American soybeans or Brazilian beans because both those countries are willing sellers. If one sells to China, the other will sell to the other countries that also import to meet their sizeable food import needs.
One of the most dramatic farm trade disruptions in history was triggered by the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, and President Jimmy Carters subsequent sudden embargo of American grain to the Soviets. Sales of about 25 million tons of grain headed for Russia were canceled overnight as American wielded its long-touted food weapon to punish the USSR.
Grain ships headed from the U.S to the Soviet Union turned around in mid-ocean. However, they didnt bring their grain back to America because the Russians simply reordered the grain they needed from Argentina and Brazil with a slight price premium. U.S. grain was delivered, instead, to the countries that would have bought Latin American supplies. The food weapon turned out to be useless. (Only as the Soviets later gradually extended their own croplands by 28 million acres in subsequent years did they meaningfully impact world grain prices.)
If China needs soybeans to provide food and meat for her consuming millions this year, then shell buy soybeans. China made a big deal about buying U.S. soybeans in the past for whatever modest geopolitical gain that achieved. However, if shes turning U.S. farm exports away from her shores, she will buy the same food from other sources. This wont alter the global supply/demand ratio, and few countries will blink twice.
Remember also that the worlds population is still rising and that will continue, but only for the next 30 years or so. The worlds birth rates are sinking as rapidly as its death rates, and the worlds human numbers are likely to peak at about 8.5 billion, about 2060.
Chinas population growth has already stalled due to its one-child policy, but its a land-short country. Its demand for meat, milk, and eggs will continue to grow, but more slowly.
India already has more people than China, and the Indian numbers will continue to expand until about 2060. India has lots of land; however, is terribly short of water. Growing food demand will keep bumping up against water limits, forcing both more irrigation for Indian farms and rising food imports. Expect the Indians to keep expanding their demand for meat, milk, eggs, and feedstuffs from both domestic and foreign sources. The human hunger for high-quality protein is very powerful.
It may surprise you that Africa will be the new leader in world population growth, and in food demand growth. The catch is that African nations have never in the past been able to afford substantial commercial imports of food. Most of their food imports have comes as food aid. Africa is also the most difficult world region for high-yield farming, mainly because of its constantly shifting drought patterns. Nigeria is already a growing food market due to its oil production, but much of the rest of the continent is mired in strong man governance that generates little economic growth to support food importing.
Can the world market for non-food farm products absorb the still-rising productivity of American farm acres beyond 2065? That will become a major challenge for the next generation of U.S. farm owners. There will be an urgent need to find more non-food markets for farm commodities.
Dont bet on ethanol. Today, fracking has made the United States essentially self-sufficient in gas and oil. Ethanol has become a political orphan. Auto owners are already objecting to the lower mileage and engine gunk associated with ethanol-laced fuels. President Carter started the ethanol program in 1979, after the OPEC price shock sharply raised fuel costs worldwide. Energy independence became the fuel watchword. Later, the ethanol cause was revived by the Green coalition seeking renewable fuels. Now, the automakers say their engine warranties would be voided if an ethanol blend higher than 10 percent is burned.
Meanwhile, the power of the Greens is fading, because the earth has failed to radically overheat as the climate models have predicted for the past 30 years. Thirty years is certainly long enough to declare the models failed. Only a minority of the worlds food-buying public are still committed believers in man-made warming. The subsidies for biofuels, solar panels, and wind turbines are being rapidly ratcheted down as the huge bills for their once-urgent renewable energy begin to fall due. Expect less demand for both ethanol and for the wind turbines that have supplemented some farmers incomes.
Dont panic about the Trump tariff negotiations. The long growth period for world food will taper down sharply after 2060. Dont overpay today for farmland by relying on the old slogan People will always need to eat. They will, but therell be substantially fewer people.
All my ancestors were farmers. Many relatives still are. They have been convinced they must vote for a democrat otherwise those evil republicans will take away the subsidies.
Trump needs to hit this head on. He should be doing his rallies right now in Nebraska and other farm states.
I am a member of several ag related discussion boards. More and more I see the younger generation farmers quoting John Oliver form Comedy Central as a good source for “news”. It’s not a rare instance, it is very common.
The veggie, dairy, and meat packing industries will be going nutzoid when they get ICE’d.
Employers need to feel the heat of being ICE’d.
Common sense economics. Thanks for posting.
Trump is right....we've let China get away with this for years. They grabbed our jobs, our companies and our money.
It's time!!
They have been convinced they must vote for a democrat otherwise those evil republicans will take away the subsidies.
Entitlement voters, no different than illegal aliens and single mommies, basically. Ethanol, for example, is a giant teat.
I stopped interacting with a number of my farmer relatives because it made me sick to listen to them talk about how to work the system to get more subsidies.
And how about ripping folks off with this “organic” farming.
Not to worry. If American farmers are hurt by Chinese tariffs, Sarah Huckabee says the WH has a plan to offset the damage. More farm subsidies on the way?
I traded physical commodities. This article is spot on. We have supply and demand. The shipping is insignificant A mere cpl of percent diff in landed cost. The big portion of shipping is loading a ship and offloading it. Commodities are fungible That means there is no difference between any of it and any can be substituted for anything else of the same kind. Supply flows to demand. Does 2 bucks a ton make that much diff in meat prices? No it doesn’t .
Reminds me of the joke about the Dept. of Ag.
One day an Ag employee comes in and sees a colleague sobbing his eyes out. He asks him “What’s wrong?”
The sobbing man replies: “My farmer died.”
The farmers I know fall into 2 groups.
The good ones want the government to get out of their way and don’t care about subsidies.
The lazy and incompetent ones are all about subsidies.
Thank you.
Why should I give damn about subsidized farmers (2% of the workforce ) when Free Traitors don’t give rats ass about manufacturing and factory workers?
Brazilian and Argentinian bean meal would be going to go to China and our bean meal will go to where the B & A meal would have gone. A slight inefficiency in shipping but the stuff going to China would ship in Panamax or Super Panamax vessels and with what Trump has done for fuel, cheaply. I shipped 120,000 metric tons of meal to Nigerian chicken farmers for 6 bucks a ton in shipping. Most of the cost was because they didn’t have great load out facilities. Commodities are interesting. Cast a fishing net across the world. Call that net price. Pull up or down on any node and the close nodes follow suite. Call that basis. It is the value of time and place. Bean meal is based on the CBOT pricing of futures. Basis is the cost of getting it there when it is needed. It is a fishing net. In addition, US producers are the lowest cost producers in the world. If I were a farmer I would plant a huge soy crop this spring. Demand for US soy is going to spike and dumb dumbs wont plant soy so supply will drop and prices will go up. Hell, I wouldn’t hedge out any of my crop.
Unless China intends to downgrade its peoples’ diets, it’s not going to have more than marginal influence on US bean or grain prices. Historically, starving your your own people hasn’t been all that successful a long term strategy.
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