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Trump Makes Progressive Democrats Go Left Toward Socialism
Vanity | 3/31/2028 | Self

Posted on 03/31/2018 11:17:27 AM PDT by CptnObvious

Trump Makes Progressive Democrats Go Left Toward Toward Socialism.

Take Trumps putting "Are You a US Citizen" on the next census. The Democrats and their minions scream foul. Yet Trumps move lets us know how many immigrants (non citizens) that we have. How else are we to know so directly. So the Democrats move even further left.

Trump say he will use the military to Fund some of the Wall and the same thing happens. Democrats don't care if they go so far left that they don't care about the dead ranchers and the drugs runners pouring across our borders.

The only question is how far left will Trump now make them go?


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To: CptnObvious

European socialism is an economic failure. It is about to collapse.

Russian (soviet socialism/communism) was a catastrophic failure.

US Socialism is also about to fail with the collapse of the dollar.
We cannot pay for those who do not pay for themselves at this level.

It is only a matter of time, and I even suspect sooner than later...


61 posted on 03/31/2018 1:00:37 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: dfwgator
I haven't seen that movie, so I will later. It's on youtube, apparently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTv9iZJvx1Q. According to The "Black Book of Communism", seizing the grain also meant the seed for the next year's crop, so there was nothing to replant. When the farmers moved to the cities to beg for food, the military was called to transport them all back. All this lead to the famine of 1932-1933.
62 posted on 03/31/2018 1:23:02 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

By the way, that is Robert Duvall, playing Stalin. I really thought he did a good job, even if the makeup they used wasn’t the best.


63 posted on 03/31/2018 1:25:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Also, I’m dying to go see “The Death of Stalin”. The first time in a long time I’ve been excited about a movie.


64 posted on 03/31/2018 1:31:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

No pun intended, I take it.


65 posted on 03/31/2018 1:37:52 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

LOL, no.


66 posted on 03/31/2018 1:38:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: reasonisfaith
Progressive democrats fake their public image. They pretend to be mainstream, meanwhile their game is communism.

What we are seeing in the Democrat Party is a loss of patience among the communists. They are no longer willing to wait. The radicals want power NOW.

67 posted on 03/31/2018 1:46:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Olog-hai

“They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. …”

That’s a very enlightening quote from Woodrow Wilson. The left are in every way anti-Constitution and anti-American.


68 posted on 03/31/2018 1:52:46 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: dfwgator

it was fantastic


69 posted on 03/31/2018 1:54:00 PM PDT by socalgop
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To: reasonisfaith

Good analogy


70 posted on 03/31/2018 2:05:12 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: CptnObvious

Hahaha! MAGA! Drive them further into their lunacy!


71 posted on 03/31/2018 2:15:10 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: CptnObvious

Trump didn’t make them go left to Socialism they were already there. He does drive them nuts though which I love..


72 posted on 03/31/2018 2:31:27 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: CptnObvious

He didn’t cause it. He just revealed how far left they were.


73 posted on 03/31/2018 2:41:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Sure about that?

Wilson made several executive power grabs, among them taking over all of the nation’s railroads via the USRA.

Never mind the de jure class warfare of Jim Crow, enforced by legitimate law enforcement as well as Dem-supported extrajudicial terror groups like the KKK.

It’s a bit hard to demonstrate how much further right the Uniparty were back then versus now, given the history.


74 posted on 03/31/2018 2:53:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Bryanw92

It really isn’t, since communism as Marx and Engels described it cannot exist and the endgame really is totalitarian socialism.


75 posted on 03/31/2018 2:55:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

>>It really isn’t, since communism as Marx and Engels described it cannot exist and the endgame really is totalitarian socialism.

Does any created thing exist as the purely theoretical creation when it becomes reality? Capitalism doesn’t exist in pure form either as soon as the first charity comes into being.

Failure to be perfect doesn’t make it non-existent. Pragmatic Communism IS totalitarian socialism and that makes it something other than just socialism, doesn’t it?

The Progressive experiment believes that they can “progress” the human mind to the point where the socialism can be cooperative and, therefore, closer to theoretical communism than the totalitarianism of the 20th century communist states.

They really do believe that. It’s what makes them dangerous and also makes them vulnerable. But Obama changed them and seemed to introduce the idea that going totalitarian is the only answer and that makes them an existential threat. In the vanity OP, the writer thinks that forcing them to the Left weakens them. I say that it emboldens them to give up the Progressive ideology in favor of the Bolshevik ideology.


76 posted on 03/31/2018 3:06:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: CptnObvious

The whole Democratic Party passed
Socialism a long time ago. Just listen to Their totalitarian rants. Why do you think they really want gun control? Remember they are also the party of slavery. They should surrender their salaries to black charities.


77 posted on 03/31/2018 3:25:20 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: CptnObvious
"Trump Makes Progressive Democrats Go Left Toward Socialism"

Inaccurate title...Progressive/communist demoncrats have not changed one single bit since 1904...There has never been a "glass partially full" wrt the progressive demoncrats...Which is why they have been winning and we, Americans, have been losing for over one hundred years...

It's like saying that the extremely cold ground temperature is or has made people in the grave deader...

78 posted on 03/31/2018 4:19:35 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Bryanw92
As far as that goes, Engels wrote in The Principles of Communism that “(i)t will be impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once”— referring to the infamous Ten Planks. After that, though, the notion of an all-powerful centralized state “wither(ing) away ” to transform into the “association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all” is the big lie that makes the house of cards collapse.
79 posted on 03/31/2018 4:53:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

>>to transform into the “association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all” is the big lie that makes the house of cards collapse.

The Progs believe it and a century of sociology professors have told them that it is doable. It is their religion. Always remember that it is their religion when talking about what is possible and what is not.


80 posted on 03/31/2018 5:08:33 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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