Posted on 02/28/2018 3:59:56 PM PST by Simon Green
President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights, thehill.com reports. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy mans case that just took place in Florida to go to court would have taken a long time, Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence. Take the guns first, go through due process second,' This he said despite . . .
Vice President Pences caution on gun confiscation.
Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.
Allow due process so no ones rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons, Pence said.
Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court, Trump responded.
Here are some more choice Presidential quotes from the firearms chin-wag:
Dont worry about adding in the bump stock ban, Ill do that myself fortunately we are able to handle that without going through Congress.
The background chekcs are so important .people are afraid to do background checks because theyre afraid of .somebody. .I dont care whos endorsing you, youre going to be MORE popular if you do it.
It takes so long going to court to get due process I like taking the guns early so I like what youre saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second
Some people dont like the word comprehensive .I like the word comprehensive. Id rather have a comprehensive bill. Can you merge yours into this bill or would you rather have a Fix NICS bill?
It would be really nice to create something thats beautiful, that works.
What surprises me is that nothing has been done for so many years
I dont understand why this hasnt happened for the last 20 years
..there is so much commonality between Republicans and Democrats.
I think folks need to relax. This is Donald J Trump, remember, Art of the Deal?
He’s just doing a little Rope-a-Dope. He’s put nothing down on paper. Hasn’t signed anything.
You people who are panicking will wonder what you were thinking.
No they don't.
Give it some time and watch it play out.
Trump talks a big game during negotiations...outside of bump stocks and increasing background checks on felons and the mentally disabled wackjobs, I don’t little of this passes Congress - and he kmows it.
Companies have done that kind of thing before.
Then they quietly come back when the issue dies down.
I agree....He’s talking about....getting complaints (like they got) and doing nothing....
I am a supporter of Trump and everything he has done. If he does anything to take away our 2nd amendment rights he can kiss that support goodbye. We are a nation of laws not demagogues.
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Oh yes they do!
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Agree, the pants on fire, Oh noooos, are getting a tad panicked. Cruz was a psycho who threatened to shoot up a school months before he did it. There should be a way to stop people like him. That's what DJT is kicking around.
That’s all very well and good for the scenario you describe but, it doesn’t really address the underlying point which is that Trump shouldn’t be suggesting, carte blanche, that we should “take the guns first,then go through due process”.
Imagine the following alternate scenario: Some neighbor of yours doesn’t like that you own guns, for whatever leftist drivel reason, goes to the police and claims you are acting crazy, and gets a bunch of his friends to “testify” to the fact too (i.e lie about you). Then also let’s say you are on some mild anti-depressant medication, that isn’t necessarily indicative of your mental state or capacity to responsibly own a gun, they are just some medications you are taking for a mild case of chronic depression.
So you see where this is going? Some leftist with a grudge against you for whatever reason, maybe it’s not even because you own guns but just because you vote conservative and he knows you do, and thus you must be “stopped”, and since he has no compunction about lying (because he’s a leftist) lies to the police and gets some of his friends to do it too, “corroborating” his complaint. And you are on record taking anti-depressant drugs (which can be twisted into further evidence you are “crazy” when you are not), all of these “reasons” can be used as justification for “taking the guns first, then go through due process”. And exactly what is that anyway?
You now have to go to court to prove you are innocent is what it is, which is the exact opposite of what this country is all about. You shouldn’t have to go to court to prove your are *not* crazy, your accusers should go to court to prove you *are*.
So you or anyone can claim I’m a “pearl clutcher” for not taking this latest spontaneous remark by the president very well. I don’t care. I’ll still *know* I’m a patriotic American who cares about infringement of my God given rights.
Sigh
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Many departments run you before making a traffic stop now.
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"Who" bottoms out on superior force and willing to use it.
I am biased to a position that assumes the government intends to eliminate all ability to resist. It aims to keep the people as harmless and productive livestock.
Much prefer communities to disarm the dangerous among them, without use of government.
Sure Because the courts have done such a good job with DACA? They dont even have jurisdiction over an executive order but that hasnt stopped them from legislating from the bench
Yep.
I am disgusted with Trump at this point.
Dunno what game he thinks he’s playing, by my civil rights are not to be used as pawns.
He’s going to end up in checkmate.
Playing with fire, but that is unavoidable given the forces at work.
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We now have Rand Paul’s broken ribs to show where all this is going.
We need to bring it to a stop now.
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There is a supposed acquaintance of his who was saying Cruz was obsessed with ISIS and that he visited ISIS web pages. Is this being hidden from the public?
Trump was extremely reckless today and fueled the Gun Grabber Left and media for another few week.
He trashed the NRA and a phony 2nd amendment .
The midterms will be disaster .
I have a feeling that this meetings tangible results will be the same as that bipartisan DACA meeting that Trump hosted a month or so ago.
Nothing.
Remember? Trump said he would sign anything and take the heat on DACA.
What has he signed on DACA so far? Its a rhetorical question.
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