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Right revolts on budget deal
The Hill ^ | 7 FEb 2018 | Scott Wong and Melanie Zanona

Posted on 02/08/2018 5:03:50 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon

House conservatives on Wednesday revolted against a massive bipartisan deal to raise the debt ceiling and bust spending caps, complaining that the GOP could no longer lay claim to being the party of fiscal responsibility.

“I’m not only a ‘no.’ I’m a ‘hell no,’ ” quipped Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), one of many members of the Tea Party-aligned Freedom Caucus who left a closed-door meeting of Republicans saying they would vote against the deal.

It’s a “Christmas tree on steroids,” lamented one of the Freedom Caucus leaders, Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.).

“This spending proposal is disgusting and reckless — the biggest spending increase since 2009,” conservative Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted after the meeting. “I urge every American to speak out against this fiscal insanity.”

The debt hike, in particular, is giving conservatives “heartburn,” said Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.), a member of the GOP vote-counting team.

The swift backlash from fiscal hawks means that Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his leadership team will need dozens of Democratic votes to help get the caps-and-funding deal through the lower chamber to avert a government shutdown set for midnight Thursday.

At the same time, some Republicans predicted a majority of the majority would back the package.

Former Republican Study Committee (RSC) Chairman Rep. Bill Flores (R-Texas), who said he will probably support the package, estimated that about two-thirds of the lawmakers who spoke at the microphones during the closed-door meeting actually voiced support.

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the current Freedom Caucus chairman, predicted that the budget deal will get support from a majority of the majority, but not enough to pass without Democratic votes.

It’s unclear how many Democrats will support the plan without concessions from Ryan, given immigration demands from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

As Senate leaders announced their bipartisan agreement, Pelosi was on the floor threatening to oppose the emerging budget deal without a commitment to consider legislation in the House to protect young immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, known as “Dreamers.”

But there are a lot of other items in the package that are attractive to Democrats, including money for the opioid crisis, disaster aid, more Children’s Health Insurance Program funding, community health center funding and the nondefense spending boost.

“We would need votes coming from both ways,” said Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.). “Pelosi I guess won’t vote for it, but … I do think we will have a number of Democrats that would break.”

It’s also possible more Republicans will back the legislation given opposition from Pelosi.

Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), current RSC chairman, acknowledged in a tweet that the deal is “a struggle for any one with fiscal concerns,” but said he was more inclined to support it “the longer Nancy Pelosi bloviates on the House Floor.”

The deal between Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) calls for raising the debt ceiling through March 2019 and busting budget caps imposed by the 2011 Budget Control Act. It would boost funding for the Pentagon and domestic programs by about $300 billion over current levels over the next two fiscal years, but lawmakers said only about $100 billion of that would be offset.

The Bipartisan Budget Act also calls for an additional four years of funding for a popular children’s health program; $90 billion in additional disaster aid for hurricane-ravaged Florida, Puerto Rico and Texas; billions more to fight the opioid epidemic and funding for community health centers that serve the poor and uninsured.

The legislation would keep the government funded for another six weeks, through March 23. That should give lawmakers enough time to write an omnibus spending bill to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year.

Many fiscal hawks who were complaining the loudest Tuesday were among those lawmakers who rode an anti-spending, anti-debt Tea Party wave to Washington during the 2010 and 2012 cycles.

Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) described the atmosphere inside the GOP conference room as “tense,” while Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said it was “kind of depressing” to think Republicans could be responsible for adding billions of dollars to the deficit when they control all the levers of power in Washington.

“It’s too much money,” Perry said.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) quipped that fiscal hawks might now be an “endangered species.”

Meadows and Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) were among the members who stood up during the conference meeting to vent their frustration, lawmakers in the room said.

Retiring House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), a close Ryan friend, also railed against lifting the debt ceiling, sources said.

Jordan, a former Freedom Caucus chairman, said earlier in the day that he was disappointed by the tentative deal and expressed surprise that Ryan — who has staked his political career on being a fiscal hawk — would go along with the proposal.

“It’s a terrible deal,” Jordan said. “I never thought Speaker Ryan would be supportive of this … I just never thought the Speaker would go here with these high numbers.”

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Brooks slammed the deal as a “debt junkie’s dream.”

“I don’t know if we have enough votes amongst the members to stop this legislation,” the outspoken Alabama conservative said. “All I know is that unfortunately those who vote for this bill are betraying our country’s future and they are selling out our kids and our grandkids.

“I am baffled why the Republican Party has turned into such a big spending party. It is one thing to spend money; it is another thing to spend money you don’t have,” Brooks went on. “No American family can operate that way; no American business can operate that way, and it is folly to believe that the United States of America can operate that way.”

Some defense hawks were also upset over the proposal because of the inclusion of the debt ceiling.

Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said he was prepared to swallow the spending boost for domestic programs in exchange for the military bulk-up, but he was thrown off by raising the debt ceiling as part of the deal.

He declined to take a position on the package until he sees the final details, however.

Part of Ryan’s pitch to the conference, according to lawmakers who attended, was that the budget deal not only delivers a long sought-after spending boost for the military, but it also clears the way for an honest debate over immigration if lawmakers don’t have the debt ceiling, the threat of government shutdown and other unresolved issues looming over their heads.


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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Hate to say it, but we’ll likely lose in a shutdown for this reason. The public simply LOVES government spending and could care less about our debt.

The Senate needs to go to 51 votes on this stuff and be done with it.


21 posted on 02/08/2018 5:48:51 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: xzins

Pull our gallant troops out of Afghanistan...That will save American lives and billions of dollars we don’t have.

(I read several years ago that the Afghani elite were buying condos and villas in Dubai, using our money allocated for nation building. What a disgrace, we have homeless children at home while our “allies” ride around in Ferrari’s..that US taxpayers paid for)....We have become a sad joke.


22 posted on 02/08/2018 5:56:37 AM PST by AFret.
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To: af_vet_1981

How about supporting our country and future generations? A military won’t mean a hill of beans if the nation goes bankrupt and Trump will be history in 7 years.


23 posted on 02/08/2018 5:57:33 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: AFret.

To date, we have not tried to win that war. We haven’t even defined what a win would look like.

If they tried to win, I’d give them 1 more year. If they’re not obviously close or finished, then I’m with you.


24 posted on 02/08/2018 6:14:05 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Several callers to CSPAN pointed out that the HOR had passed all sections of the proposed budget by September. The worse-than-useless (evil?) Senate ignored all that, then comes up with an emergency deal that raises the debt and isn't connected to how money will actually be spent. I honestly don't know how much longer the US can survive, with traitors such as McCain and Flake being totally bought and paid for. They're psychologically very ill and willing to destroy the nation if that's what it takes to cause even greater challenges for President Trump.

Sure would be nice if McConnell had some backbone and had a vote that removed Senator McCain because he's too ill to function in a rational way.

JMHO

25 posted on 02/08/2018 6:40:49 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: Jarhead9297

So agree !! But it’s only play-money (sarc), well, sortof (not sarc).


26 posted on 02/08/2018 7:18:03 AM PST by happytrumper
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To: central_va

Shut the place down! Seriously.


27 posted on 02/08/2018 7:19:19 AM PST by happytrumper
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To: bray

Shut the place down.


28 posted on 02/08/2018 7:20:41 AM PST by happytrumper
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To: babble-on

“Trump supports it”, What kind of game is that??


29 posted on 02/08/2018 7:25:51 AM PST by happytrumper
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To: babble-on

Mattis supports it? Well, of course. Why wouldn’t he!


30 posted on 02/08/2018 7:28:17 AM PST by happytrumper
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

We have to spend money on infrastructure and defense. To the extent we waive spending caps to get those things done, its a fact of life.

Not all deficit spending is bad. Its a question of what kind of deficit spending we should put up with.


31 posted on 02/08/2018 7:39:02 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My rever))
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

RINO’s love big government and spending too.


32 posted on 02/08/2018 7:43:21 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Glad to see the Freedom Caucus standing up to the leadership and big government.


33 posted on 02/08/2018 8:45:25 AM PST by taxcontrol (SStupid should hurt)
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To: happytrumper

Trump is a RINO. QED


34 posted on 02/08/2018 10:14:21 AM PST by babble-on
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To: bray

Agree. Thank G-d for the Freedom Caucus and Rand Paul. A shut down is better than this turd.


35 posted on 02/08/2018 5:31:06 PM PST by KingofZion
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To: BobL
The Senate needs to go to 51 votes on this stuff and be done with it.

It is the only excuse for not taking the blame for doing nothing and they don't have to vote against anything. Never going to happen with Mitch as Majority Leader.

36 posted on 02/08/2018 6:24:05 PM PST by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

$30 Trillion in debt here we come. Winning!


37 posted on 02/09/2018 5:37:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), current RSC chairman, acknowledged in a tweet that the deal is "a struggle for any one with fiscal concerns," but said he was more inclined to support it "the longer Nancy Pelosi bloviates on the House Floor." ...The legislation would keep the government funded for another six weeks, through March 23. That should give lawmakers enough time to write an omnibus spending bill to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year.

38 posted on 02/09/2018 7:34:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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