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Apple to transfer Chinese iCloud operations to state-run company...
Techspot ^ | Jan. 10, 2018 | David Matthews

Posted on 01/16/2018 4:17:24 AM PST by caww

This move also relocates Chinese customers' iCloud data from the US to China.... Per a clause in the terms and conditions,.... Apple and GCBD "will have access to all data that you store on this service, including the right to share, exchange and disclose all user data, including content, to and between each other under applicable law."

China passed a controversial cybersecurity law last July that required companies that operated data centers in China to store all data in the country.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; beseeingyou; bigbrother; gcbd; icloud; maccult; privacyrights
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1 posted on 01/16/2018 4:17:24 AM PST by caww
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<>". "Apple has strong data privacy and security protections in place and no backdoors will be created into any of our systems.""<>

AND we are s-o-o-o much smarter than they are...

2 posted on 01/16/2018 4:27:15 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (High taxes + Government = Disorganized Crime)
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I’m old and grumpy and I don’t really like the concept of the Cloud. I like to control my stuff. Giving it to someone else for safe-keeping just seems like asking for trouble.


3 posted on 01/16/2018 4:35:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: caww

Anyone thinking that I would used some liberal concept like “The Cloud” is delusional.
I don’t even like the fact that there’s an icon for “the cloud” on my PC.


4 posted on 01/16/2018 4:41:41 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code amd only practiced by warriors.)
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Yep, old school. It’s my data and I’ll keep track of it. No one else will have accessible.


5 posted on 01/16/2018 4:42:05 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: ClearCase_guy

The price of storage has dropped so precipitously in the last 10 years that ANYONE can have their own personal home cloud. I recommend Synology’s product line. They’re Taiwan-based, but if you strip out the “one-click” and “ease-of-use” stuff, you can set up a decent cloud stack in your home.

The advantage of cloud, as I see it, is not for storage but for compute. I run an enterprise server in my home, to my wife’s chagrin, but it’s not light on the electric bill. I’ve tried to cram as much as I can into the hypervisor, and now I’m fighting resource constraints. I’ve offloaded a couple of minor Linux workloads to Microsoft’s Azure stack, and it handles those loads very well and at a low cost; but there’s always the risk of a memory leak or something similar, and my information is suddenly not so private anymore.


6 posted on 01/16/2018 4:42:20 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: BuffaloJack

“The cloud” isn’t liberal of conservative. It’s memory. I use Dropbox, a cloud service, for things I need to share with others (large files) for us to work on. I also have my family pictures there, as well as several external drives. None of those pics are Kardashian-like. If my house burns down they won’t be lost.


7 posted on 01/16/2018 4:56:46 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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"“The cloud” isn’t liberal of conservative. It’s memory."

Well said.

8 posted on 01/16/2018 5:07:44 AM PST by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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Agreed. Ever try to get your original photos off of Apple's iCloud? It's not easy. Quickly, I came to the conclusion that Apple's construction of the storage site was intended to capture my data and abandon it to their safekeeping. Phooey. .


I’m old and grumpy and I don’t really like the concept of the Cloud. I like to control my stuff. Giving it to someone else for safe-keeping just seems like asking for trouble.
9 posted on 01/16/2018 5:08:29 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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All your data are belonging to us.


10 posted on 01/16/2018 5:13:31 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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To: rarestia

I may hit you up for some advice later in the coming months.


11 posted on 01/16/2018 5:48:14 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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You are correct, it is just memory. Yet, just as a weapon is an inanimate object which does not kill on its own, it is the human with access to “it” whom I do not trust.

Direct individualized marketing of the sort which happens after you search for an item in the internet, for example, is annoying yet manageable. It is the large volume of data made up of messages, emails, contacts you have, eBooks you buy, services you support, charities you support, social groups you sympathize with and other seemingly innocuous morsels of information you put in your smartphone/cloud which, when assembled either by humans or algorithms, paint an accurate picture of who you are, without your knowledge or for what purpose, that bothers me.

These cloud providers may claim privacy, yet there are rouge employees (hello Tw33ter & Fakeb00k) who can either leak the info pro bono, sell it in a mercenary fashion or just allow a third party to hack it for political or criminal purposes. I can see a not too distant future when a political candidate will have his/her personal data leaked from the cloud to handicap them during a campaign; oh wait remember the John C. Ryan 2004 race against Barry? Imagine if a totalitarian government (i.e. China) had access to the cloud information of its enemies? What if data clouds existed in Germany in the late 30’s early 40’s? Future conservatives seeking political office better be “clean” as the wind driven snow or have no “negative” electronic footprint.

I think nowadays privacy is underestimated and convenience overrated. Call me paranoid; they can keep their cloud.

Regards.


12 posted on 01/16/2018 6:10:14 AM PST by Sine_Pari
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To: caww

There’s nothing Apple won’t do for a buck.


13 posted on 01/16/2018 6:34:00 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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How much you think Apple would charge to support Trump? /sarcasm


14 posted on 01/16/2018 6:58:08 AM PST by Sine_Pari
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More than DJT is willing to pay.


15 posted on 01/16/2018 7:10:13 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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They probably gave China’s State Police a backdoor key to Chinese iPhones.


16 posted on 01/16/2018 9:37:04 AM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Technology knows no borders as we see time and again...nor loyalty to any country.


17 posted on 01/16/2018 11:02:32 AM PST by caww
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I never use it either. Rule of thumb...put nothing out there on line you don’t want other people to see.....period.


18 posted on 01/16/2018 11:05:49 AM PST by caww
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To: Tenacious 1

The information war and control of technology, social media, internet etc. is on! Whoever controls it all controls the people, commerce, economies etc....media as well.


19 posted on 01/16/2018 11:09:36 AM PST by caww
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Except when it does show preferences to certain countries.


20 posted on 01/16/2018 11:15:19 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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