Here’s What “Indigenous Peoples” Did to People They Didn’t Like… It’s Graphic

Conservative Tribune ^ | October 9, 2017 | Ben Marquis

[plain talk]

The indigenous peoples who populated the New World prior to the arrival of Europeans were arguably even worse than the hated white men who eventually conquered them, in terms of civility and wanton violence toward their enemies.

Indeed, far from things like slavery and genocide being introduced to the continent by Columbus and his successors, such acts of atrocity were already occurring widely among the various warring tribes of natives, who routinely enslaved, tortured, ritualistically slaughtered and even feasted upon their defeated enemies.

That’s right — many indigenous peoples practiced cannibalism upon those they had conquered and oppressed. Is that really what leftists want to celebrate? Don’t answer that.

“Long before the white European knew a North American continent existed, Indians of the Northern Plains were massacring entire villages,” explained George Franklin Feldman, author of the book “Cannibalism, Headhunting and Human Sacrifice in North America: A History Forgotten.”

“And not just killed, but mutilated,” Feldman added. “Hands and feet were cut off, each body’s head was scalped, the remains were left scattered around the village, which was burned.”

Tony Seybert, author of “Slavery and Native Americans in British North America and the United States: 1600 to 1865,” noted that the practice of slavery was already well-established in America prior to its discovery and subsequent settlement by the Europeans.

According to the eyewitness testimony of a Jesuit missionary named Father Barthelemy Vimont, who observed the Iroquois peoples in 1642, captives of the tribe had their fingers or hands cut off, were skinned alive and tortured for hours on end, then were scalped and mutilated in front of everyone.

[blueunicorn6]

There were fewer people to eat out West.

[JBW1949]

Maybe you should’ve been there.....

[blueunicorn6]

Why, I’ve been around Indians all my life.

That’s why I never have Indian Fry Bread.

It might be someone I know.

[JBW1949]

<...Why, I’ve been around Indians all my life...>

So have I...

[blueunicorn6]

Do you know the secret handshake?

[JBW1949]

I am 1/4 Ani Yun Wiya...

If you don’t know what that means, look it up...

[Patriot Babe]

As a child, I would hear how evil the Spaniards were toward the Aztecs. Now as an Adult I learned that the Aztec were not that clean cut. They behaved like bullies toward smaller tribes & I realized if the Spaniards did not invade Mexico I would have never been born including the majority of the “white Hispanics”.

[doorgunner69]

Wait until some natural or other disaster cuts off food from the ghetto. EBT will not matter much.

[blueunicorn6]

Ooohhhhhh.....so you’re a member of the Lawrence Welk tribe out of South Dakota.

Ani One Ani Two....

[JBW1949]

I find your comments humorless and even insulting...
You may continue though, behind your computer “safe space”

[whodathunkit]

Allen Eckert is one of my favorite authors.
He is unabashedly politically incorrect with his portrayal of life (and death) in the era.
The realization that the Europeans triumphed makes one consider the savagery that we, as their progeny, are capable of. Those who hope for CWII need to study history to curb their enthusiasm.

[Robert357]

The romantic images of the Noble Savage in the Romantic writings of the 18th and 19th centuries, especially in the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau clouded the real history of Native Americans.

While Eden might have been a perfect place of innocence with the absence of civilization, North America without “civilization” was not.

[fr_freak]

When the movie Apocalypto came out, I feigned absolute shock at how brutal indigenous people were to one another, to a lib at work.

I'm too lazy to try to websearch a source right now, but I recently read an article about Cortez's conquest of the Aztecs, where he encountered some of the Aztec "culture" afterwords and found it so disgusting and demonic that he deliberately tried to wipe any record of it off the face of the earth. Apparently, there was some very intense glorification of human sacrifice and the like within their "sacred" areas.

[OregonRancher]

My great, great, great grandmother (#?) come down to OK from the Ohio river valley as a missionary to the Choctaw Indians.
My father told me there is a statue dedicated to her somewhere in eastern OK.

[Albion Wilde]

This thread makes an important distinction between the agrarian, settled tribes of the east and the more vicious, animal-hunting tribes of the west dealing with constant food scarcity and associated nomadism.

Here is a recent article about the savage ethos of the Great Plains tribe, Comanche:

TABOO TRUTHS ABOUT THE COMANCHE: Were Native Americans really kinder, gentler and more spiritual?

[fr_freak]

Not really. Just people. Their culture accepted this as normal. Just as the Europeans accepted the verdict of the Inquisition to burn heretics as the stake. No more savage than believing slavery was a viable economic system. No more violent or cruel than the English sentence for treason.

All more or less true (remember - it was the Spanish Inquisition, not the European Inquisition) but the difference is that the Europeans, initially quite savage, have been evolving, morally, for hundreds of years, largely due to the influence of Christianity, and by the time the USA came into existence, most of the really atrocious things were considered unacceptable behavior (such as drawing and quartering), whereas the indians were still at a stage where engaging in such horrors was just everyday behavior. Despite that fact, people (well, leftists really) still want to try to depict indians as noble and peaceful and Europeans and Americans as ruthless barbarians, despite the reverse being more true than not.

[blueunicorn6]

You find my comments “insulting”?

No no no....

Come on.

Let’s smoke the peace pipe.

Later on, we can have some people over for dinner.

[bray]

Were they Mooselips?

[JBW1949]

I am a proud American, Vietnam veteran, and I refuse to make fun or joke of anyone’s heritage...

[x]

All more or less true (remember - it was the Spanish Inquisition, not the European Inquisition) but the difference is that the Europeans, initially quite savage, have been evolving, morally, for hundreds of years, largely due to the influence of Christianity, and by the time the USA came into existence, most of the really atrocious things were considered unacceptable behavior (such as drawing and quartering), whereas the indians were still at a stage where engaging in such horrors was just everyday behavior.

1492 to 1776 was a longer span of time than 1776 to 2017.

So there was room for an awful lot of evolving during that time.

But who's to say the Indians haven't also been evolving since 1492?

And starting out with a lot fewer advantages.

They are frozen in time while we keep evolving?

Okay, I'll keep looking over my shoulder just in case one wants to scalp me.