Here’s What “Indigenous Peoples” Did to People They Didn’t Like… It’s Graphic

Conservative Tribune ^ | October 9, 2017 | Ben Marquis

[blueunicorn6]

Just a couple of posts back, you were hoping that the Indians would have eaten me.

I never wanted any cannibals to put you on the menu.

You probably deserve an ass chewing, but that’s just a figure of speech.

No, you have insulted me beyond reproach.

There is only one way to settle this.

I’ll meet you on Main Street at high noon.

I’ll be packing iron.

So bring any wrinkled shirts you have.

If you kill me, then bury me with my boots on.

My socks will stink up the place if you take my boots off.

[ExpatGator]

Anyone who adopts Western philosophy tends towards the decent.

[RetiredTexasVet]

Lucky they were Cherokee and not Comanche or Kiowa.

[bgill]

They killed my great great grandparents and burned their house. The neighbors saw the fire and found the girls hiding in the burning house.

[ruthles]

The US tolerance of abortion is every bit as disgraceful as what the Indiginous people were doing. BUT I am sick and tired of the Indians being treated as sacrosanct.

[fr_freak]

They are frozen in time while we keep evolving?

The evolution of American indians is over. It stopped when they were relegated to reservations. They don't do the nasty stuff any more, because Americans put a stop to it.

But that's not the point here. The point is that you were trying to make an equivalence between behavior of Europeans versus American indians, that they were the same because both groups were just people. My point is that this may be true, but that the cultures of the two were quite different and that the European culture had mostly evolved past a lot of the barbarity that you pointed out by the time they settled the Americas. Certainly the American culture had evolved past that point, as a whole, by the time most of the Indian Wars occurred.

One last thing - yes the indians were frozen in time before the Europeans arrived. They hadn't even invented the freaking wheel, and there was no reason to believe they ever would.

[Bull Snipe]

The inquisition existed in Spain (most known), France, German and the low countries. The inquisition was a Christian institution. The English punishment for treason was to be hung for 5 or so minutes, cut down, then the genitals were cut off and the belly slit open, genitals and entrails burned while the person was still alive. The individuals head was cut off, and displayed on the Tower gate and the body cut into 4 quarters and disposed of at the pleasure of the King. If I remember correctly the English considered themselves Christians. The Native Americans were no more mindless savages than the Europeans were ruthless barbarians. As I said, just people. Capable of great cruelty at times and also capable of great kindness at times

[Skooz]

bookmarked

[FrdmLvr]

One of the ancestors in my tree was scalped by indigenous savages and left for dead sometime in the 1600s in Massachusetts. She crawled up into a hollowed oak and hid until two other savages happened by and found her. According to her account, there was some squabbling between the two, and she surmised the older one wanted to kill her but the younger one wanted to help her, and he won out. They took her back to their settlement and nursed her back to health. So, not all savages were bad guys, I guess.

[Conservative4Life]

The descendants of Ghengis Khan acting like Ghengis Khan... who'd a thunk it.

[ronnie raygun]

When you have snowflakes who were taught no history on purpose by liberal progressive propagandists

[fr_freak]

And none of that disputes what I posted. Europeans were quite brutal in their day, and became less so over time, largely due to the influence of Christianity. By the time the USA came into being, the (American and European) culture had evolved to where drawing-and-quartering type punishments were not commonplace anymore, nor any of the other brutal things that Europeans used to do. While at the same time, INDIANS WERE STILL DOING THINGS LIKE THIS. That is the point. Modern leftists like to portray American Indians as peaceful noble people when they were often far more savage than the Americans ever were, or the Europeans had been for centuries.

[Pelham]

“According to the eyewitness testimony of a Jesuit missionary named Father Barthelemy Vimont, who observed the Iroquois peoples in 1642,”

The movie Black Robe is based on his memoir.

[A_perfect_lady]

I remember seeing some of the vases of the Aztec people, and some of the writings of the Mayans. Capture, enslavement, torture, castration, human sacrifice, and murder. I said, “Wow, I thought it was all Disney songs and dancing with wolves till the white man came,” and all the little Lefties gave me dirty looks and didn’t say anything (what could they say?)

[wgmalabama]

The noble and peaceful Indian (Native American) is a myth. Many tribes were a bloody, tourturued and viciously wearing group. Silly history can’t be truthful.

[Sgt_Schultze]

American natives were more advanced than cavemen. But they hadn’t even invented the wheel yet.

[firebrand]

The saddest scene in that movie is when the sensitive guy who is constantly made fun of by his own tribe is shown to be ignorant of how you make babies, because everyone conspired to tell him the wrong thing. Everyone is laughing their head off, and the last shot of the scene is of . . .

. . . the chief also laughing.

An entire tribe of cads and bullies but worst of all: no justice.

It gets worse.

But then better, at the end. Guess who arrives.

[lizma2]

Actually they had,...for toys.

According to Jared Diamond’s “Guns, Germs, and Steel”, (an excellent read!) ancient Native Mexicans invented wheeled vehicles with axles for use as toys, but not for transport. (Archeologist have found them.)

This is because they lacked domestic animals and the need was never there.

Came across a rather un-p.c. website that said they didn’t need pack animals, they had women! LOL!

[x]

My point is that this may be true, but that the cultures of the two were quite different and that the European culture had mostly evolved past a lot of the barbarity that you pointed out by the time they settled the Americas.

You originally said, "by the time the USA came into existence." That was centuries after Europeans settled the Americas. Read about the conquistadors, pretty brutal guys.

One last thing - yes the indians were frozen in time before the Europeans arrived. They hadn't even invented the freaking wheel, and there was no reason to believe they ever would.

You were talking about moral evolution, now you're talking about technological evolution. There were a variety of cultures in the Americas. They weren't all one identical thing.

Some of those cultures were higher on a moral scale than others. That means some kind of moral evolution had happened. Or at least some kind of development or differentiation.

No, the Indians weren't saints or moral paragons, but when you look at what horrors the rest of the world was capable of doing in the 20th century, I wouldn't lightly dismiss them as barbarians.

[fr_freak]

Sure, the 20th century had some nastiness, but it was the exception, not the rule. We look down on the Nazis because they did some fairly heinous things that were already unacceptable, even in war, by the 20th century. As for the rest of the stuff done in the various wars. War is war. I don't pass judgement on what anyone does to survive in those circumstances. What they do when survival isn't on the line, for example, with POWs, is another story. So, indians scalping guys in battle doesn't faze me. Indians slaughtering and enslaving non-threatening neighbors, red or white, and torturing them for fun does faze me.

I used the example of wheelless indians to show their lack of change and progress towards anything different. It has nothing to do with their moral values, per se, but it shows their cultural stagnation. If Europeans had never come, I have no doubt indians would still be doing the same stuff they were doing 700 years ago.