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What Caused the Universe to Come into Existence?
PJ Media ^ | September 16, 2017 | Edward Watson

Posted on 09/17/2017 6:49:17 AM PDT by Raymond Pamintuan

We know, to the best of our senses and instruments, that the universe exists. How did it come into reality 13.8 billion years ago? In other words, what caused the Big Bang?

Roughly speaking, there are two possibilities: “nothing” caused the universe to come into being or “something” triggered it into existence.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigbang; god; lotsofgods; multitheism; polytheism; staticelectricity; universe
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To: isthisnickcool

A SATANIST might.


41 posted on 09/17/2017 7:33:08 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: P-Marlowe

The first words ever articulated: “Fiat Lux”

And like any Fiat, the whole universe has needed to be in the shop every week or so ever since...


42 posted on 09/17/2017 7:33:30 AM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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To: Moonman62

Yep.


43 posted on 09/17/2017 7:33:56 AM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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To: P-Marlowe

Just saw this thread. Your reponse, verbatim (not that it was very long) went through my head. I’m so glad it was the first response. Good on you.


44 posted on 09/17/2017 7:35:08 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: ctdonath2

Time is not understood and may never be.


45 posted on 09/17/2017 7:35:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Yet we all know what time is, at least until we are asked to explain it!


46 posted on 09/17/2017 7:37:16 AM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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To: isthisnickcool

“Who created God?”

Why did God “have to be” created? Who made that rule?


47 posted on 09/17/2017 7:38:02 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

The Universe cannot be the cause of its own existence. The cause is something outside of the Universe, which is called God.

St Thomas of Aquinas says it better.

God is outside of the chain of cause-effect in which we live. Anything in the chain cannot have started the chain.


48 posted on 09/17/2017 7:42:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only option for remaining sane in a criminally insane world.)
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To: linear

The need for bacon.

...

The desire to experience pleasure is a as good an explanation as any at this point.


49 posted on 09/17/2017 7:45:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I hope so, otherwise I’m in deep s**t.


50 posted on 09/17/2017 7:47:52 AM PDT by Lee Enfield (Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The number 42 was somehow involved. But we will never know because we don’t know the question.


51 posted on 09/17/2017 7:49:03 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: SamAdams76

Yet it figures prominently in both Special and General Relativity. It must be real.


52 posted on 09/17/2017 7:53:33 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

;)


53 posted on 09/17/2017 7:54:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: I want the USA back

How about both?


54 posted on 09/17/2017 7:54:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Too far beyond our comprehension, we have millions of years of evolution to go before human minds reach the necessary capacity to find the real answer. Maybe it isn’t going to happen in our present life form. Maybe the Universe is there because it is there and we are here because we are here? Does the question need to be answered? None of us will ever know, we can only use our imaginations until we die. The answer is too far into the future and our crystal balls are not powerful enough to see it.


55 posted on 09/17/2017 7:54:43 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

We are constrained by our physical bodies and their limitations. That is why some of us believe that, when we transition to our spiritual bodies and shed the physical, all of our questions will be answered.


56 posted on 09/17/2017 8:02:09 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

The Word.


57 posted on 09/17/2017 8:04:39 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: isthisnickcool

Either the Universe has existed for eternity ot it had a beginning. The vast majority of scientists believe the latter. According to the Laws of the Conservation of Energy and of Matter, neither energy nor matter can be created or destroyed, only transformed. Of course, since ‘Trinity’, we know that matter can be changed into energy however, the sum total of all matter and energy has not changed since the beginning of time. Of course, ‘time’ was created at the same instant that the Universe was created. The Creator of everything, I call God, Jehovah, YHVH.

Of course, asking your question, you run into the same issue. If someone ‘created’ God, like the Mormons believe, then the question becomes ‘Who created the Creator of God?’. This creates an infinite progression and to solve it, you STILL need a ‘First Cause’. So, unless the Universe has always existed, there MUST BE a ‘First Cause’. I call the ‘First Cause’, God. As I find nothing irrefutable in the Bible, I choose to believe what God tells me, that He is the Creator and that there were none before Him. If there is anything PROVEN wrong in the Bible, then the whole thing needs to be tossed out.


58 posted on 09/17/2017 8:07:53 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: babygene

Who created the illusion?


59 posted on 09/17/2017 8:09:00 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: plain talk

Just looking around this place, the creator has to have been That kid playing in his Mana’s basement


60 posted on 09/17/2017 8:10:20 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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