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Canada now investigates 'climate denial' [1984 Orwellian]
www.torontosun.com ^ | 09-14-2017 | By Lorrie Goldstein

Posted on 09/14/2017 9:10:01 AM PDT by Red Badger

It’s like something out of George Orwell’s 1984.

Canada’s Competition Bureau, an arm’s length agency funded by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government to the tune of almost $50 million annually, investigated three organizations accused of denying mainstream climate science for over a year, following a complaint from an environmental group.

The bureau discontinued its 14-month probe in June, citing “available evidence, the assessment of the facts in this case, and to ensure the effective allocation of limited resources”, according to Josephine A.L. Palumbo, Deputy Commissioner of Competition, Deceptive Marketing Practices Directorate.

But it will re-open its investigation should it receive relevant new information from the public.

The complaint was filed by Ecojustice on behalf of six “prominent” Canadians, including former Ontario NDP leader and UN ambassador Stephen Lewis.

It accused three groups, Friends of Science, the International Climate Science Coalition, and the Heartland Institute of making false and misleading claims about climate change, including that the sun is the main driver of climate change, not carbon dioxide, and that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

When it launched its complaint in December, 2015, Ecojustice told the National Observer it would press the Commissioner of Competition to refer the matter to the Attorney-General of Canada for “criminal charges against the denier groups”.

In response to the Competition Bureau discontinuing its probe, Calgary-based Friends of Science said on its blog that: “The Competition Bureau is a very important enforcement agency. We regret that any of their time had to be wasted on this matter. We are not a commercial entity, we do not have federal lobbyists, we are not tax-subsidized as environmental charities are, we do not represent any industry. We only present the professional insights and expertise of our core team and represent the views of our individual members (not corporations). The typical process for Competition Bureau inquiries is confidential; Ecojustice appeared to use this call for inquiry to grandstand.”

In May, 2015, Advertising Standards Canada, a voluntary industry group that does not enforce its decisions other than through public suasion ruled, following 96 public complaints, that two Friends of Science billboards in Montreal stating: “The Sun is the Main Driver of Climate Change. Not You. Not CO2” contained, “categorical and unequivocal claims ... (that) could not be supported by the preponderance of current evidence on the matters in dispute ... (and) omitted relevant information, namely that a number of factors have led to climate change, of which the sun is just one.”

As someone who has written extensively on climate change for a decade, my view is that all of this is madness. We are entering into dangerous territory, a fundamental attack on free speech.

If we’re going to use agencies of the federal government to investigate and even prosecute “climate deniers”, for making “false and misleading claims” then let’s damn well do the same for “climate alarmists”, who do the same thing all the time.

I read and hear politicians making “false and misleading claims” about climate change almost daily, particularly with regard to what federal and provincial carbon pricing schemes will actually accomplish, as opposed to what our governments are claiming they will accomplish.

But the way to decide these issues is through public debate, not running to an agency of the federal government to shut up people we disagree with, particularly a government that itself makes false and misleading claims about man-made climate change all the time.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 1984; agw; atheismandstate; canada; climatechangedenial; climatechangefraud; globalwarming; globalwarmingscare; glowbullwarming; junkscience; orwell; pseudoscience
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1 posted on 09/14/2017 9:10:01 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Can no one outside of conservative America think anymore?


2 posted on 09/14/2017 9:16:30 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Red Badger

It’s a little comforting - but not too much - to know that it’s not just our country that has been infected with clinically insane people.


3 posted on 09/14/2017 9:19:55 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: Red Badger
>>It accused three groups, Friends of Science, the International Climate Science Coalition, and the Heartland Institute of making false and misleading claims about climate change, including that the sun is the main driver of climate change, not carbon dioxide, and that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

So these fascist greenie weenies deny that the Sun drives climate change?

These fascist greenie weenies deny that plants need carbon dioxide?


4 posted on 09/14/2017 9:24:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Crucial

That’s just it.

You are not supposed to think.

The government does all that for you................


5 posted on 09/14/2017 9:25:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: a fool in paradise

carbon dioxide is as essential to life as air and water.

if there were none, everything would die rather quickly and gruesomely..................


6 posted on 09/14/2017 9:27:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The sun is the main driver of climate change, not carbon dioxide, and carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

You stupid Canadians! you elected someone who is worse than bammy!


7 posted on 09/14/2017 9:32:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech: a fond memory of something that went away 30 years ago.)
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To: Red Badger

I have come to the conclusion that Canada is really a Comminist Nutball State devoid of any semblance of a scintilla of free expression. They have no expectation of freedom of speech.


8 posted on 09/14/2017 9:32:18 AM PDT by vette6387 ( I)
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To: vette6387

It’ll change in a hundred years when the Islamists have conquered it.


9 posted on 09/14/2017 9:33:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Red Badger

Great article! Much better than what The Onion puts out these days.


10 posted on 09/14/2017 9:34:32 AM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Crucial

“Can no one outside of conservative America think anymore?”

Yes, they can. They think conservative Americans should be murdered.


11 posted on 09/14/2017 9:35:08 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Red Badger

If you think on your own—you are an enemy of the state!


12 posted on 09/14/2017 9:36:25 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Red Badger

The climate is ALWAYS changing. I don’t deny it. I deny that human activity has more than a tiny bit of the cause.


13 posted on 09/14/2017 9:40:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Many science experiments and greenhouse nurseries have proven that higher concentrations of carbon dioxide causes plants to grow faster which in turn reduces the amount of CO2 in the air.


14 posted on 09/14/2017 9:42:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Red Badger

If the “Rule of Law” still meant anything, getting this argument into a court room where both sides could go through discovery and present evidence and make a case, this would be a good thing to dispel the MMGW con.

But, the game is rigged and you can be a lot of evidence would be disallowed. To be effective, the case would have to put science itself on trial.

Someone needs to file a lawsuit against some of the groups pressing the myth and make it go to court. Put them on the defensive and prove the science.


15 posted on 09/14/2017 9:45:42 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Red Badger

“Competition Bureau”

(snort)

Come get us


16 posted on 09/14/2017 9:47:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Crucial

Apparently not anyone living in an area that was once under a mile of ice sheet


17 posted on 09/14/2017 9:49:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: MeganC
They think conservative Americans should be murdered.

Thinking and saying are different than doing,but rational and civilized people do not think nor say such things.

The Soviet Union would put people in labor camps for 25 years just for being near someone who is alleged to talk against or deny the Communist platform and Mother Russia. It was quite possible to be disappeared and a bullet to the brain was the ultimate penalty. I believe the left in this country is quite capable of this given the opportunity (if they abolished the Second Amendment).

18 posted on 09/14/2017 10:00:46 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Whenever you can, ask a greenie weenie, “Just when, in the last four billion years, has the climate NOT been CHANGING?”..............


19 posted on 09/14/2017 10:01:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

THEN, after they answer, tell them, “In approximately another four billion years, our Sun will become a RED GIANT, engulfing everything in the Solar System out to the orbit of Mars, and will be burnt to dust. What are you going to do about it?”.................


20 posted on 09/14/2017 10:03:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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