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After Nurse Assault, Salt Lake City Makes the Bleeding Worse
townhall.com ^ | 9/4/2017 | Shawn Mitchell

Posted on 09/04/2017 7:54:51 AM PDT by rktman

By now, most people probably have seen the disturbing video of a Salt Lake City Cop manhandling and arresting a University of Utah nurse for doing her job, following protocol, and protecting an unconscious patient in her care. The chaotic scene can be viewed here.

In brief, Detective Jeff Payne demanded access to an unconscious accident victim who was suspected of no wrongdoing in order to draw the man’s blood for the police investigation. Nurse Alex Wubbels cited hospital policy and an apparent agreement with the police department that allows a blood draw only with patient consent, or a warrant, or if the patient is under arrest. As none of those elements were present, she declined. Payne pressed the issue and radioed a desk lieutenant who instructed Payne to arrest Wubbles if she did not comply. Wubbles had a hospital lawyer on a cell phone speaker, who advised Payne he was “making a huge mistake.” Payne lost patience and his cool, yelled “We’re done here. You’re under arrest!” and charged and grabbed Wubbels, handcuffed her, and pushed her out the door toward his vehicle while she screamed “Help! I’ve done nothing wrong! This is crazy!”

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TOPICS: Government; Philosophy; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; crankwalkin; donutwatch; illegalarrest; nurse; nursearrested; slc; slcpd
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DOH! You know, sometimes you step on your XXX. Sometimes you jump on "it". Looks like these clowns were tossin' boulders on "it". Geez, I wonder if the nurse in question will suffer ptsd from this event? The popo response is lame in the extreme. Sad a few assclowns can make the department look bad and then add to the line of BS. To all the good cops, thank you.
1 posted on 09/04/2017 7:54:51 AM PDT by rktman
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Why did you link us to a PRINT version? I want to read article, not print it out.


2 posted on 09/04/2017 7:57:16 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Waiting for 2024 Total Eclipse)
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To: rktman
sometimes a little badge goes a looong way...
3 posted on 09/04/2017 7:58:02 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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So cancel the print and read it. Or go here:

https://townhall.com/columnists/shawnmitchell/2017/09/04/after-nurse-assault-salt-lake-city-makes-the-bleeding-worse-n2376927

I only do that to help keep popups to a minimum. And, usually I get the original up a little quicker. ;-)


4 posted on 09/04/2017 7:59:43 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Just stick with original story, not prints. Please.


5 posted on 09/04/2017 8:01:53 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Waiting for 2024 Total Eclipse)
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To: rktman

How come we keep saying “Sad a few assclowns can make the department look bad”. Maybe we should rethink this. Clearly a more accurate take is that gubment funded thugs are talented at shining sunlight on the idiotocracy.


6 posted on 09/04/2017 8:02:39 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: rktman

I prefer the print version. Thank you!


7 posted on 09/04/2017 8:02:41 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rktman

That nurse is going to get a big payday, and so are a lot of lawyers.

SLC taxpayers ... not so much.


8 posted on 09/04/2017 8:07:03 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: PJ-Comix

No. Thanks for the input. I’ll try to post the original faster in a follow up post.


9 posted on 09/04/2017 8:08:15 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Sounds like the mayor and the PD need more corrective action: lawsuits against the city and the PD, lawsuits against the individual officers involved, denial of police access to the hospital in its entirety, arrest of any police who violate that restriction by the campus PD, and whatever else will motivate a radical change in behavior.


10 posted on 09/04/2017 8:09:22 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Lorianne

Hmmm. Do ya think the liars, I mean lawyers, will make out better?


11 posted on 09/04/2017 8:09:27 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Well-composed article. Odd that it prompted my pooter to print it.


12 posted on 09/04/2017 8:10:12 AM PDT by corkoman
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Payne’s commanding officer, the lieutenant at the desk, who ordered the arrest should also be place on administrative leave and ultimately fired. If the lieutenant at the desk received advice from others, they should also be investigated.


13 posted on 09/04/2017 8:10:13 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Most hospitals are not heavily staffed with nurses these days. I wonder how many lives were endangered by the illegal conduct of these cops. Or should I say, pigs.


14 posted on 09/04/2017 8:12:01 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PJ-Comix

I didn’t have to print. I just canceled the print command and read the article. I guess it’s a difference of the computer you are working with.


15 posted on 09/04/2017 8:12:07 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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The judgment of the lieutenant who told Payne to arrest a nurse right in the middle of an ER when she was supposed to be taking care of patients is seriously in question.
But clearly the detective absolutely lost it in a fit of temper when he charged her and restrained her.
16 posted on 09/04/2017 8:13:43 AM PDT by GnuThere
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“...campus PD,” Oh, were they at a school? LOL! I abhor the use of “campus” for, well just about anyplace these days. According to MW dictionary #3 that would be “grounds that resemble a campus a hospital campus a landscaped corporate campus”, which according to #1 are “the grounds and buildings of a university, college, or school”. Anyway I suppose if you stretch the definition, it’s correct. Still....... Not to mention that the local on site PD may not have arrest powers.


17 posted on 09/04/2017 8:15:33 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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That nurse is going to get a big payday, and so are a lot of lawyers.

Yes, if this was an unlawful arrest there could also be jail time for the detective.

False imprisonment, kidnapping, civil rights violations

I doubt that it will happen. But it is a possibility.

18 posted on 09/04/2017 8:15:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: rktman; PJ-Comix

The proper etiquette around here was always to post the print version whenever possible. The print version is generally less platform dependent, requires less bandwidth, usually appears on one page instead of multiple pages, and has fewer pop-ups and cookies. Anyone who wants the loaded-down version is welcome to do a web search for the article.


19 posted on 09/04/2017 8:16:30 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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Sorry about that. Like PJ Comix, hit the cancel print if available. I usually try to post the original link right after the printable link but slow coffee this morning.


20 posted on 09/04/2017 8:17:01 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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