Posted on 09/01/2017 10:26:41 AM PDT by varyouga
(SALT LAKE CITY) A Utah police officer's body camera video shows a hospital nurse being handcuffed after refusing to draw blood on an unconscious patient.
The video taken at University Hospital in Salt Lake City shows nurse Alex Wubbels calmly explaining to Salt Lake detective Jeff Payne that she couldn't draw blood on a patient who had been injured in a car accident. She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample or be under arrest. Otherwise, she said police needed a warrant.
The dispute ended with Payne telling the nurse she was under arrest and physically moving her out of the hospital while she screamed.
The Salt Lake Tribune reports Wubbels was not charged. Police have started an internal investigation, but Payne remains on duty.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
I wonder if he would have arrested a judge for refusing to give him the warrant that would have made his illegal actions legal and proper.
All this falderal over nothing.
All the cop had to do was arrest the unconscious patient.
“To Protect and to Serve”
I remember that old motto the police ‘used’ to have. I say ‘used to’ as I remember their training ‘target pictures’ a few years ago they went to. You remember, the ones with ordinary looking citizens holding guns - very old people, kids, 9-month looking pregnant women. It was called something like ‘no-hesitation’ targets.
I also remember going to ‘stun guns’ as a less lethal way to control citizens that were ‘threats’. Didn’t turn out that way. Stun-guns became something to prod citizens who didn’t act fast enough to commands. Shootings of citizens appeared to increase.
I totally respect and commend the GOOD officers we have. I wish there were more of them.
I blame the breakdown on our society breakdown, including police training and militarization of the police department. The ‘protect and serve’ has become an army of the certain powers mentality. ESPECIALLY since they are standing by and allow mobs to attack citizens now. That is just insane. I get it.
It is no secret there have been/are corruption in all government departments, including police departments.
Which is all the more reason, we as citizens, need to ensure our involvement in policing all government departments. We trusted for too long. We need to ensure those good police can come forward and be protected as whistle blowers - and ensure JUSTICE.
We also need to be involved in ensuring our own rights as citizens be respected and honored. Too many of us, me too, has not got involved either because of personal reasons or not knowing what to do.
Bringing change is one of the hardest things to do. But we know change is coming. So we need to make sure it is all the right changes. God help us.
The charge nurse provides legal cover for the nurse and represents management of the hospital.
LOL
Live it up baby. No one gets off this rock alive...
I may not be understanding you.
The original poster objected to the police, apparently wrongly, arresting the nurse who, it appears, was following hospital protocol.
How does that make someone a cop hater?
Or maybe it was something else?
Or you may be making your own joke?
Yes.
Sir, if you do not understand your rights, raise your right hand......Very well, you are under arrest.
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you wrote “Shes resisting arrest and interfering in police duty.
When placed under arrest a professional who knows she is right cooperates and goes with the police knowing she is in the right.”
Truth be told if that was me I would have decked the guy cop or noit. What he did was unlawful and the way he was acting was unhinged. I would have feared for my safety if I had let that cop handcuff me.
If i was prosecuted for hitting a police officer so be it...BUT i would still stand up for my rights
You also mentioned she was arrested for interfering in police duty...she did not, and hence the basis for the false arrest. She was well within her rights and the law for refusing the officer..just because one has a badge on doesnt mean one is God and we bow down to them. If they are wrong they need to be stood up to. In a polite way at first if possible.
A case in point for me happened last week. I was driving into a parking lot in a driving lane and a police cruiser was coming at me perpendicular BUT NOT driving in a lane but rather thru empty parking spots using them as his “lane”. He cut across several lanes of traffic (no oncoming traffic for him to worry about and he wasnt speeding). He never stopped as he crossed those lanes. I saw him and figured he would stop when he saw me driving in. He didnt. I braked hard gave him the horn, gave him a what the hell were thinking stare, shook my head and drove on. I parked my car. He followed me to my space, turned his lights on was getting snippy with me and accused ME of reckless driving. I told him he was not driving in any lane since he was driving thru parking spaces, that he didnt have the right away and that I did. He was going to give me a ticket till i mentioned I had a dash cam that I would gladly show to his supervisor documenting HIS driving if he made an issue of it and wasted more of my time. I also mentioned I had already uploaded it after I parked and saw him follow me. He quickly dropped the issue and gave me a “verbal warning”. Sometimes you have to deal with stupidity!!!!
She has zero authority to act as an officer of the law under such circumstances.
She was not even going to draw the blood, the phlebotomist policeman was going to. She had zero authority to stop him from doing it. He respected her enough to not do it over her unlawful obstruction and acted in a civilized manner in arresting her so that the issue could be resolved in a civilized legal manner.
Yes she does have the authority if it interferes with the care of the patient...if the staff deems it a risk to the pt the law loses....the pt was a burn pt and thus has a HIGH RISK of infection since the natural skin barrier to infection is compromised. The police officer had NO LEGAL standing to either her OR HIMSELF drawing the blood. PERIOD
First and foremost, abolish cop unions.
Everything will be easier after that.
But I'll ask what crime? (and disrespect of a badge isn't actually a crime)
The Victim was injured during a police pursuit. If they can establish he “contributed” to his injuries by being under the influence of certain substances, fewer questions will be asked.
Personally I don’t like cops. They are, by a large percentage, ignorant violent and aggressive. I can defend myself against a violent, aggression idiot except in blue uniforms.
Militants cops aka swat teams are rarely needed but used too often. People die, cops get bonuses. It might not make me popular here but with BLM vs Cops - I don’t care. Harsh but honest.
If he was only obeying orders, was it necessary to enjoy it so much?
Thank you for that. The part that nails it for me...
“The Rigby Police Department would like to thank the nurse involved and hospital staff for standing firm and protecting Officer Grays rights as a patient and victim. Protecting the rights of others is truly a heroic act.”
Odd the Rigby police chief didn’t mention any wrongdoing on the part of the nurse. I hope the bootlickers noticed...
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