Posted on 09/01/2017 10:26:41 AM PDT by varyouga
(SALT LAKE CITY) — A Utah police officer's body camera video shows a hospital nurse being handcuffed after refusing to draw blood on an unconscious patient.
The video taken at University Hospital in Salt Lake City shows nurse Alex Wubbels calmly explaining to Salt Lake detective Jeff Payne that she couldn't draw blood on a patient who had been injured in a car accident. She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample or be under arrest. Otherwise, she said police needed a warrant.
The dispute ended with Payne telling the nurse she was under arrest and physically moving her out of the hospital while she screamed.
The Salt Lake Tribune reports Wubbels was not charged. Police have started an internal investigation, but Payne remains on duty.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
“She was telling him what the hospital policy- based on current law- was in regard to tests for LE. She was not speaking to a doctor about the patient’s medical care, she was speaking with LEO about the legal issue of them getting a blood draw or the results of if one had already been done.”
None of the above is in the article. Thus was in the article:
“She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample...”
“ifinnegan is usually rational but, here he does appear to exhibit signs of an I.Q. that is toast....burnt toast...”
Thanks for the back handed compliment.
Go on, entrench yourself in an absurd untenable position.
You clearly have no idea of what you are posting.
What do you not understand of these words:
“She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample...”
“She was referencing in regards to drawing blood for LE. That was obvious. You are just being absurd.”
This is what was written.
“She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample “
How was it obvious?
We agree that what the nurse is reported to have said is wrong.
That a patient can have blood drawn without giving permission.
Do you claim a patient cannot have blood drawn while unconscious due to being unable to give permission (assuming no prior contingent permission)?
It appears he was in a CYA mode and wanted the victims blood sample to fudge.
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Why would he want to fudge it?
Was anybody looking to prosecute the patient?
She was talking to the police officer, that is what made it obvious she was referencing what the issue was in respect to LE getting blood drawn or results. If she had been talking to a doctor or someone else the law and hospital policy are different.
How about you walk into an ER and ask for test results for just any random patient and see how far you get? Of course the hospital can do them for medical reasons, and their employees can get results, as needed for medical reasons. If anyone else wants them the laws/rules are different.
You are being absurd and you know you are.
No the patient wasn’t under arrest. He was hit by the person the police were chasing.
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Not only that, but the patient (victim) was an off duty police officer driving a semi truck (a second job). The officer at the ER was truly requesting the sample for the victim’s own protection, not to prosecute him.
After reading through this person’s posts it really does seem to be an Alaska Wolf retread. The convoluted logic and circuitous reasoning is the same. Signed up about a year before AW bought the farm.
I read:
“She told the officer a patient was required to give consent for a blood sample...”
There is no qualification there.
You are being absurd in not even recognizing you are in full agreement with me that she can draw blood without the patient’s consent and what is stated in the article, quoted above, is false.
Little Eichmann likes to troll with police state positions.
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Yeah, that's real easy to swallow. hahahahahahahahahaha
It does not matter what the reason was, what matters is what the law, and hospital policy are in this circumstance. In any case the nurse needed to follow hospital policy, and the law. There was no cause to arrest her.
If the officer was doing it for personal reasons to protect a friend and not even as part of his job, then that would make it even worse that he bullied and arrested the nurse.
Did you read the part where I said the patient was another police officer? Did you see the video of the car hitting his truck?
If the officer was doing it for personal reasons to protect a friend and not even as part of his job,
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He was there because the police department with jurisdiction asked him to get a blood sample.
Utah law is quite clear on this. Law enforcement needs a warrant or an arrest.
Doctors do not.
See the difference?
I don’t understand why the cop would want William Gray’s blood, unless he wants to pin fault for the accident on Gray instead of the perp that was being chased.
The qualification is who she was talking to. You know this. You are being absurd.
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