Posted on 06/21/2017 10:06:29 AM PDT by gubamyster
Ooops, looks like those “saving the planet” Tesla snobs just got their eco-ride de-pimped
From NyTeknik: h/t to Don Shaw (translated)
Huge hopes have been tied to electric cars as the solution to automotive CO2 climate problem. But it turns out the the electric car batteries are eco-villains in the production process of creating them. Several tons of carbon dioxide has been emitted, even before the batteries leave the factory.
IVL Swedish Environmental Research Institute was commissioned by the Swedish Transport Administration and the Swedish Energy Agency to investigate litium-ion batteries climate impact from a life cycle perspective. There are batteries designed for electric vehicles included in the study. The two authors Lisbeth Dahllöf and Mia Romare has done a meta-study that is reviewed and compiled existing studies.
The report shows that the battery manufacturing leads to high emissions. For every kilowatt hour of storage capacity in the battery generated emissions of 150 to 200 kilos of carbon dioxide already in the factory. The researchers did not study individual brand batteries, how these were produced, or the electricity mix they use. But if we understand the great importance of the battery here is an example: Two common electric cars on the market, the Nissan Leaf and the Tesla Model S, the batteries about 30 kWh and 100 kWh.
Even before buying the car emissions occurred, corresponding to approximately 5.3 tons and 17.5 tons of Carbon Dioxide. The numbers can be difficult to relate to. As a comparison, a trip for one person round trip from Stockholm to New York by air causes the release of more than 600 kilograms of carbon dioxide, according to the UN organization ICAO calculation. Another conclusion of the study is that about half the emissions arising from the production of raw materials and half the production of the battery factory. The mining accounts for only a small proportion of between 10-20 percent.
The calculation is based on the assumption that the electricity mix used in the battery factory consists of more than half of the fossil fuels. In Sweden, the power production is mainly of fossil-nuclear and hydropower why lower emissions had been achieved.
The study also concluded that emissions grow almost linearly with the size of the battery, even if it is pinched by the data in that field. It means that a battery of the Tesla-size contributes more than three times as much emissions as the Nissan Leaf size. It is a result that surprised Mia Romare.
Ping.
Who cares about CO2 except relatively low IQ manmade global warming nitwits?
Make all the CO2 you want and it will not significantly change global temperatures. The leftist climate fools have proven nothing about man made climate change, they just try to out yell those who question their assumptions and programs that amount to nothing more than a huge scam.
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It'll probably turn out that the CO² produced by batteries is some sort of "good" CO².
The liberal lemmings are getting scammed. Total Dummies LoL.
I like the idea of hydrogen cars where water vapor is exhaust.
But, o noes, water vapor is a bigger greenhouse gas than CO2.
This would be a problem if the electricity it uses to recharge was not acquired from those free connections to an energy portal to another dimension.
Imagine getting the power from coal. yikes! :)
“The global average concentration of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere is currently about 0.04%”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
Unless those same Batteries are Recharged using Geothermal, Hydroelectric, Solar, Wind or Nuclear Power, they continue to contribute to CO2 Levels throughout the life of the Vehicle.
A few years ago I was at a Tesla dealership in South Lake Union in Seattle and was very impressed on what a great deal the car would be for me if I commuted to a place like Seattle. it’s because the car really is cool, the government would pay me many thousands to buy it and the energy was all free.
Who care’s if it’s as dirty as a Hiroshima atomic bomb?
For both solar cells and batteries, the amount of CO2 generated in the manufacturing process exceeds the CO2 generated by a power plant to produce the same power output.
Except the CO2 produced by the cells and batteries is highly front loaded which is presumably a bad thing for the CO2 zealots.
For example say it takes the CO2 emitted by burning 20 tons of coal upfront to produce a solar cell or battery system to replace a coal burning system that produces the CO2 from 1/4 ton of coal per year over 20 years.
Which one is the bigger CO2 hog?
I don’t and really CO2 is not, but the maroons say they are saving duh planet.
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We may not have had the figures but we already have seen articles discussing the batteries’ creation process destroying any idea these are zero emisions vehicles.
Further the plug they are plugged into to recharge are not connected to unicorn butts, the conventional grid burns coal and natural gas in most places, with some nuclear. This is just a sleight of hand trick, they dont burn them in their engine but they have someone else burn them for them elsewhere to recharge them.
That is not zero emissions. Charge them all up by a standalone solar station and I will call them zero emission.
"....and didn't Odungo give millions to Tesla?"
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