"....and didn't Odungo give millions to Tesla?"
Ping.
Who cares about CO2 except relatively low IQ manmade global warming nitwits?
Make all the CO2 you want and it will not significantly change global temperatures. The leftist climate fools have proven nothing about man made climate change, they just try to out yell those who question their assumptions and programs that amount to nothing more than a huge scam.
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It'll probably turn out that the CO² produced by batteries is some sort of "good" CO².
The liberal lemmings are getting scammed. Total Dummies LoL.
I like the idea of hydrogen cars where water vapor is exhaust.
But, o noes, water vapor is a bigger greenhouse gas than CO2.
This would be a problem if the electricity it uses to recharge was not acquired from those free connections to an energy portal to another dimension.
Imagine getting the power from coal. yikes! :)
Unless those same Batteries are Recharged using Geothermal, Hydroelectric, Solar, Wind or Nuclear Power, they continue to contribute to CO2 Levels throughout the life of the Vehicle.
For both solar cells and batteries, the amount of CO2 generated in the manufacturing process exceeds the CO2 generated by a power plant to produce the same power output.
Except the CO2 produced by the cells and batteries is highly front loaded which is presumably a bad thing for the CO2 zealots.
For example say it takes the CO2 emitted by burning 20 tons of coal upfront to produce a solar cell or battery system to replace a coal burning system that produces the CO2 from 1/4 ton of coal per year over 20 years.
Which one is the bigger CO2 hog?
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We may not have had the figures but we already have seen articles discussing the batteries’ creation process destroying any idea these are zero emisions vehicles.
Further the plug they are plugged into to recharge are not connected to unicorn butts, the conventional grid burns coal and natural gas in most places, with some nuclear. This is just a sleight of hand trick, they dont burn them in their engine but they have someone else burn them for them elsewhere to recharge them.
That is not zero emissions. Charge them all up by a standalone solar station and I will call them zero emission.
"....and didn't Odungo give millions to Tesla?"
We could solve that problem by going nuclear.
I’ve been saying this. A few family members are quite the environmentalists. Even if they lose the argument on CO2 they jump to “pollution”. As though cars are still these massive polluters that they used to be.
...then I point out how batteries are produced:
- Mining of lithium. All the machinery, equipment, and local transportation of it
- Shipping the raw lithium to refinement plants in various countries
- More shipping to manufacturing plants, turn materials into batteries
- The resulting electricity STILL needs to be generated, batteries are just storage
This amounts to a huge CO2 footprint, before the car is ever driven. The batteries will also need to be replaced each decade.
It may make you “feel” better, typical of liberals, but doesn’t provide the claimed benefits. Same goes for “wind and solar”. How much energy does it take to make a solar panel? How much does it *really* produce during its lifetime? The assumption is that it is a net positive, even if it is, how much?
LOL, and this is without the coal and NG power plants in most parts of our country charging the battery daily throughout its useful life.
I think Musk is a visionary and very inventive guy. But the reality is that if the US Government did not exist neither would his businesses - Tesla, solar panels, ion Batteries and Spacex all of which are heavily subsidized by the US government. The first 3 are a waste of taxpayer money.
Who could possibly have predicted that? ANYBODY WHO HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE CYCLE COSTS!