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Rand: Without Scalise's Security Detail, It Would Have Been 'Massacre'
townhall.com ^ | Posted: Jun 14, 2017 11:05 AM | Cortney O'Brien Cortney O'Brien |

Posted on 06/14/2017 12:56:34 PM PDT by johnk

...Had Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) not been at Wednesday’s congressional baseball practice, the scene would have been much more deadly, several witnesses have concluded. Scalise, who was shot in the hip, is currently in surgery.

Five people in total were shot, including a Scalise staffer and Capitol police officers, who arrived at the scene within three minutes, managing to subdue the attacker.

A shaken Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) explained to the media that because Scalise is the Majority Whip, he is one of few members of Congress who always travels with his security detail.

Rand Paul: "I think we're lucky that Scalise was there because this was his security detail, without them it would have been a massacre." pic.twitter.com/2p2Zqj2ml7 — Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) June 14, 2017

"I think we're lucky that Scalise was there because this was his security detail, without them it would have been a massacre," Paul noted.

"Everybody would've died,” he emphasized.

Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH), a doctor who also helped attend to Scalise’s wounds, concurred with Paul’s conclusions.

"[The gunman] would've had a tremendous advantage if we didn't have someone returning fire," he said.

Paul, Wenstrup, and other members of Congress rushed to help Scalise after police took down the shooter, attending to his wounds and calling his family.

The Capitol officers who have been shot are expected to survive.

In case you needed more proof these guys are heroes...

Stunning. @RepMoBrooks says on #CNN that wounded Cap HIll officer, who took the shooter down, ignored own injuries to check on Scalise — Jason Seher (@jhseher) June 14, 2017

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gun; hodgkinson; insurrection; liberalviolence; progressiveviolence; rand; randpaul; scalise; shooting
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To: johnk

The Democrat shooter didn’t bet on a security detail at a killing field baseball park where CCW was difficult. A baseball field is an optimum killing field. Fenced in, control of entry and exit and no cover for those on the field.


21 posted on 06/14/2017 1:21:12 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: madison10
I do not think they were lying, for once. I think his condition has deteriorated during surgery.

Things happen during surgery. I heard several times today that Big Corrupt Lying Media said that Scalese "will recover".

22 posted on 06/14/2017 1:22:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Scumbag lying media today has been saying that he "will recover".

Is there a reason why you think he won't?

23 posted on 06/14/2017 1:25:56 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
I just heard a report and several posters say that his condition has taken a turn for the worse and that he is having complications in surgery from bleeding.

Is he not?

24 posted on 06/14/2017 1:29:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: vetvetdoug
The Democrat shooter didn’t bet on a security detail at a killing field baseball park where CCW was difficult.

Open carry in Virginia is legal. And Virginia recognizes CCW permits for any state that recognizes Virginia CCW permits in return.

25 posted on 06/14/2017 1:31:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: FreeReign
Is he not?

Just because he is in critical condition now doesn't mean he won't recover.

26 posted on 06/14/2017 1:34:08 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Just because he is in critical condition now doesn't mean he won't recover.

And of course I never said that he won't recover. It's the comment that "he will recover", that I pointed out is inappropriate.

27 posted on 06/14/2017 1:35:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: johnk

This is a win/win for the left. America is dying by a 1000 cuts. The left needs to be taught a lesson. What I wish and what will actually happen are entirely different. This goes down most American’s memory hole within 24 hours.


28 posted on 06/14/2017 1:47:37 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: johnk

Hey Hillary....How are those anti-Trump groups going? This latest shooting in DC goes to your proliferation of hate groups...the resistance. You have blood on your hands.


29 posted on 06/14/2017 1:47:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Damn straight !!

Why was Scalis’ the only one there with armed protection?

This was a practice for a game with at least 11 guys on each side, all players are active comgressmen, senators. Why is this one guy the only one that had any protection around?

I mean I dont mind saving others asses when I save my own, but I know there will be bitching if I fail to save everyones, and it will piss me off further to know that the others failed to even consider such protection. (Sorry, Im just an asshole like that sometimes.)

Dont even get me going on the specific targeting of the GOP. Thats a whole nuther level O’ stupid to climb.


30 posted on 06/14/2017 2:01:50 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Texas Eagle

Indeed.

I will clean and inspect my personal carry firearm today before C.O.B.


31 posted on 06/14/2017 2:04:12 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Since the government will not provide one for me and I am not rich, I carry my own protection.

Yep... and I pretty much don't go anywhere that prohibits that.

32 posted on 06/14/2017 2:05:17 PM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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To: johnk

Hey Sen. Rand Paul, be glad that the shooter was not ISIS trained or the damage would have been much worse.
Hopefully you politicians(and I include 9th circuit court judges), will pay more attention to the many muslims hiding among our citizenry.

If not, you’re forewarned at this baseball practice.

Any of you, who still think that Islam is a ROP, should get his/her head examined.


33 posted on 06/14/2017 2:09:42 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Texas Eagle

Please, they are republicans, in the majority and haven’t passed constitutional carry per the constitution.

When you are dealing with stupid they just don’t get it. Being shot at does wonders to clarify your mind, but these are really, really stupid people and they still don’t get it.


34 posted on 06/14/2017 2:15:29 PM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: TBP

Isn’t there some dang laws about threats to people, especially leaders? Shouldn’t this set an example and start rounding up people online etc that make threats and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law!?


35 posted on 06/14/2017 2:57:50 PM PDT by pangaea6
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To: johnk

does McCain play softball?


36 posted on 06/14/2017 3:24:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone (not this time!)
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To: DoodleDawg
Open carry in Virginia is legal. And Virginia recognizes CCW permits for any state that recognizes Virginia CCW permits in return.

I just read that there are public venues in certain subdivisions in Virginia which disallow open carry of semi-auto rifles and pistols. Alexandria is one of these subdivisions. Only CCW would be available for self-defense.

Since this was a practice event at a baseball field (public venue), chances are slim to none that anyone other than the shooter would be armed. (He violated the law -- surprise, surprise).

If not for Scanlise's security detail, all these *Republicans* would be dead at the hands of a radicalized leftist. We've been treated to increasing levels of leftist radicalized rhetoric fomenting violence and assassination. Many need to be held accountable.

37 posted on 06/14/2017 3:55:59 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: johnk

He fired a lot of ammo(30 shots?) to little statistical effect. I don’t think it would have been a “massacre.” The guy had a not terribly acurate rifle and was not skilled in its use. He knew how to pull the trigger. He did seem to have a large cap mag in it so he got the accessories but he apparently did not practice. For a while we can count on that from the left but groups of them are getting themselves some training. they will bring guns to gunfights.


38 posted on 06/14/2017 6:17:30 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

>He fired a lot of ammo(30 shots?) to little statistical effect. I don’t think it would have been a “massacre.” The guy had a not terribly acurate rifle and was not skilled in its use. He knew how to pull the trigger. He did seem to have a large cap mag in it so he got the accessories but he apparently did not practice. For a while we can count on that from the left but groups of them are getting themselves some training. they will bring guns to gunfights.

If no one was firing back he would have been able to approach his targets until he could hit them.


39 posted on 06/14/2017 6:19:35 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: JohnyBoy

I don’t think he meant to do that. He got himself a position and thought he would pick off targets but if he had not practiced a bunch with that SKS he wouldn’t and didn’t hit many and those he hit were by luck and spray. Firing that fast, for him, I doubt he was even aiming, just pointing at a group of people and pulling the trigger. If he had had a standard mag on it he would have been taken out after 7 shots, I think. Swapping out a mag on an SKS is not a quick move and loading it through the top is not real fast.


40 posted on 06/14/2017 9:53:05 PM PDT by arthurus
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