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National monuments harm the economy, Utah public lands official tells Congress
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 02 June 2017 11:31pm | Thomas Burr

Posted on 06/03/2017 1:21:18 AM PDT by blueplum

"Any perceived benefits from the designation of huge landscape monuments need to be weighed against the impacts suffered by those who have traditionally used the lands," Kathleen Clarke, the former Bureau of Land Management director and now head of the Utah Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office, told a House Natural Resources subcommittee. "Landscapes don't disappear, but jobs and artifacts do." {snip} The testimony comes as Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, as ordered by President Donald Trump, is reviewing the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase designations and other national monuments named in the past 21 years. Zinke must report back recommendations by June 10 on Bears Ears and the rest within four months.

Rep. Rob Bishop, a Utah Republican who heads the Natural Resources Committee, charged that the Bears Ears designation ignored the wishes of residents, especially Native Americans in the area.

"Never in my 14 years of Congress have I seen such a concerted effort to suppress the voices of local tribes by such powerful, deep-pocketed opponents," Bishop said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: bearsears; grandstaircase; kathleenclarke; mittromney; nationalmonuments; robbishop; ryanzinke
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1 posted on 06/03/2017 1:21:18 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

The Mormons have been trying to get rid of a certain monument at Mountain Meadows for years...


2 posted on 06/03/2017 1:24:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: blueplum

Sorry, just had a tagline revelation.


3 posted on 06/03/2017 1:32:23 AM PDT by W. (String up the whiners!)
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To: blueplum

My contention in regard to the Bundy case all along has been that the Fed Gov is just tightening it’s grip on public lands. Think about it. Almost since the time of the Louisiana Purchase most of the land has been almost worthless. Sure folks have made fortunes in mining and ranching but the value per acre for scores and scores of years has been “dirt”.

In recent years that value has started to rise for a number of different reasons. One other thing to rise has been public debt. IMHO, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to draw a straight line from one to the other. Since public land is what is the security on public debt, clear title has to be established. When that land largely had little value no one cared that ranchers eked out a minimal living on it. When it had little value and was pretty hard to get to no one cared what miners did.

The states out west are going to have a hard time wresting rights to it from the Fed Gov, IMHO.


4 posted on 06/03/2017 2:00:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Instead of gold our money should be pegged to land.


5 posted on 06/03/2017 2:08:29 AM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: mindburglar

LOL. It is.


6 posted on 06/03/2017 2:27:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: mindburglar

I think that is the point. When it wasn’t no one gave a particular damn what went on out west. If it wasn’t within a mile of a railroad the Fed Gov couldn’t even GIVE it away. That has all changed long ago. Now it HAS real value and for many, many years just who did own it was not a real point of contention. Notice how aggressive the Fed Gov has gotten about it’s rights in regard to this land over the last 20 or so years. Curiously, just as the public debt has risen.


7 posted on 06/03/2017 2:36:21 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: mindburglar

When money is underwritten by Gold you build Fort Knox. When money is underwritten by endless miles of land what do you do? Make Laws and Regulations.


8 posted on 06/03/2017 2:38:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: blueplum

Once upon a time there was the call of “tear down that wall”; now the best that can be called for is “tear down that monument”


9 posted on 06/03/2017 2:44:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: mindburglar
Instead of gold our money should be pegged to land.

Have our money secured by CRA loans, and see what happens. :(

10 posted on 06/03/2017 3:00:45 AM PDT by Does so (Why is it that 2nd-generation Muslims are doing all the killing?)
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To: wastoute

Thank you for giving me another way of looking at this issue


11 posted on 06/03/2017 3:19:50 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

It is sad but in this day and age you have to pay very close attention to the stories and angles the media refuses to cover.


12 posted on 06/03/2017 3:26:57 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Absolutely. Why we are here.


13 posted on 06/03/2017 3:46:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: blueplum
The testimony comes as Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, as ordered by President Donald Trump, is reviewing the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase designations and other national monuments named in the past 21 years. Zinke must report back recommendations by June 10 on Bears Ears and the rest within four months

Why only 21 years, what about the clinton first term land grabs?

14 posted on 06/03/2017 4:20:18 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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Landscapes don't disappear

Yes, they do.

15 posted on 06/03/2017 6:04:28 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: wastoute

Makes sense, for years you could get approval for improvements on BLM lands, they were actually encouraged but not since Obama.


16 posted on 06/03/2017 6:39:25 AM PDT by tiki
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To: blueplum

It seems that any time the topic of removing monument status comes up the accusation is “you want to destroy” the monument.

It’s insulting to think that the good people of Utah can’t or won’t preserve these sites.

After watching the EPA’s fiasco in Colorado, I think the fed government shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near these places.


17 posted on 06/03/2017 7:22:19 AM PDT by budj (Beam me up, Scotty...)
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To: blueplum

The law - very old - that permits presidents to, on their own authority, declare a “national monument” should be legislatively repealed/modified. A requirement for Congressional approval and Congressional legislation for each such declaration should be in the law/new law.


18 posted on 06/03/2017 10:05:16 AM PDT by Wuli
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