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Republican Obamacare replacement bill passes House
CNBC ^ | 5/4/2017 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 05/04/2017 12:00:37 PM PDT by Kazan

After years of debate, the House on Thursday voted to repeal key parts of the Affordable Care Act and replace them with new provisions.

The vote, which President Donald Trump was planning to tout as a big victory, sends the Republican-sponsored bill to gut Obamacare to the Senate for consideration.

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But winning approval for the bill could be even more difficult in the Senate than it has been in the House, where Republican leaders struggled for nearly two months to wrangle enough votes in their caucus to secure its passage.

The bill passed by a vote of 217 to 213. All 193 Democrats voting opposed the bill; they were joined by 20 Republicans voting "no."

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KEYWORDS: 115th; aca; ahca; notrepeal; obamacare; obamacare2; repeal; repealandreplace; ryancare; trump; trumpcare
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To: Lent

Isn’t Massie in the Freedom Caucus?


41 posted on 05/04/2017 1:43:36 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Hillary's Russia Ties - http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/09/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-have.htm)
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To: Pinkbell

I was looking at the current list on Wiki and didn’t see it. But who knows. Seems to be somewhat fluid.


42 posted on 05/04/2017 1:49:35 PM PDT by Lent
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To: sargon
LOLOL!! Love that graphic. It's purr-fect, for the Trump trolls.
43 posted on 05/04/2017 2:37:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Kazan

More accurately, the Republican 0bamacare tweak. And now the Republicans are responsible for it.


44 posted on 05/04/2017 2:47:20 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: HKMk23

Why? Have you read the bill?

This morning on Laura Ingraham’s program there was a conservative analysis of the bill. It is still a crap sandwich. Worse, illegals will be able to get Medicaid.

Whatever issues there are will need to be fixed in conference. Will the conference include any free market reps? I’m not holding my breath


45 posted on 05/04/2017 3:36:30 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: DOC44

Charlie Dent is a RINO POS.


46 posted on 05/04/2017 4:01:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Kazan

My husband was in the bank today and they play some kind of “Muzak” over the intercom. Right in the middle of “The Girl From Ipanema” (or whatever), a woman’s voice comes on and says, “Millions have lost their healthcare today, I thought you should know.”
He said it wasn’t an internal message from the bank - it was from Muzak!

WTH??


47 posted on 05/04/2017 4:02:02 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: silentknight

“This is the end of Trump”

Sadly it probably isn’t. Trumps base is just as loyal to him as 0bama’s base was to him. When Trump started abandoning his key campaign promises, I expected his base to turn on him. But they haven’t. They pass every broken promise, every lie and his liberal son-in-law being a top advisor as “art of the deal”. Sadly, they are apologists for him the way 0bama’s people were for him.

“This is the end of the Republican party.”
The Republican party has been dead since 2006 when they lost control of congress. Despite comebacks in 2010 and 2014 and 2016, the vast majority of elected Republicans are Democrat Lite.

“Sad day for America. One of many recently.”
I have become immune to sad days for our country. My faith in the POTUS, Congress and yes, the American people, is long dead. I expect only bad days everyday.


48 posted on 05/04/2017 4:23:31 PM PDT by Angels27
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To: Kazan

CNN is claiming this bill proves Repubs hate women and children and people are going to die.


49 posted on 05/04/2017 4:26:21 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: simpson96; donaldtrump
20 Republicans currently serving their LAST terms

Chris Smith from NJ will not be voted out.

And he shouldn't be.
He's an honest-to- goodness right to life conservative.

If he voted no, there's a good reason.

Now having said that...

I have not read the bill yet, and who knows what it's going to look like when the Senate is finished.

I'll wait and see.

And Mr. Trump, Thank you for getting rid of the whitey tax on tanning salons.

I am still as pleased as could be to call you my President.
50 posted on 05/04/2017 5:29:37 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Alberta's Child
I suspect most of those Republicans are in districts that Clinton won, so they may have helped themselves by voting against the bill.

Trump won 230 CD's, Hillary won 205 CD's, yet only 217 Representatives voted for the bill.

I don't think that your conclusion is correct.

51 posted on 05/04/2017 5:49:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Kazan

This is an utter abandonment of conservative principles. The federal government has no business being involved in medical care.

Seven years ago, when Obamacare was rammed through on party lines, I never would have guessed we would see a Republican Congress passing a bill promoted by a Republican President that enshrines Obamacare’s key principles.

This is just another stop on the way to full-blown socialized medicine, courtesy of the Republican Party, with Donald Trump leading the way.

Pitiful.


52 posted on 05/04/2017 6:21:37 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight

Sickening.


53 posted on 05/04/2017 6:53:30 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Kazan

read on an American Taxpayer post of some kind (sorry forgot cite):

he American Health Care Act (HR 1628) passed by the House today reduces taxes on the American people by over $1 trillion. The bill abolishes the following taxes imposed by Obama and the Democrat party in 2010 as part of Obamacare:

-Abolishes the Obamacare Individual Mandate Tax which hits 8 million Americans each year.

-Abolishes the Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax. Together with repeal of the Individual Mandate Tax repeal this is a $270 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes Obamacare’s Medicine Cabinet Tax which hits 20 million Americans with Health Savings Accounts and 30 million Americans with Flexible Spending Accounts. This is a $6 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes Obamacare’s Flexible Spending Account tax on 30 million Americans. This is a $20 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes Obamacare’s Chronic Care Tax on 10 million Americans with high out of pocket medical expenses. This is a $126 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes Obamacare’s HSA withdrawal tax. This is a $100 million tax cut.

-Abolishes Obamacare’s 10% excise tax on small businesses with indoor tanning services. This is a $600 million tax cut.

-Abolishes the Obamacare health insurance tax. This is a $145 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes the Obamacare 3.8% surtax on investment income. This is a $172 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes the Obamacare medical device tax. This is a $20 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes the Obamacare tax on prescription medicine. This is a $28 billion tax cut.

-Abolishes the Obamacare tax on retiree prescription drug coverage. This is a $2 billion tax cut.


54 posted on 05/04/2017 6:57:15 PM PDT by Persevero (Love you guys)
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To: The Pack Knight
The federal government has no business being involved in medical care.

It would take another Great Depression to even have a chance of getting government out of health care. And, if there was one, we'd be just as likely to get single payer.

Trump and Freedom Caucus have made the bill as conservative as it can be.

55 posted on 05/04/2017 6:58:46 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Here is the link to the Bill
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-115hr1628rh/pdf/BILLS-115hr1628rh.pdf

And here we go...

1: Add 400 million to Medicare budget
2: One year from the passing of the law, no federal funding to states for 501 c 3 who specifically do abortions!!! This defunds planned parenthood outright!
3: REPEALS STATE MEDICARE Expansion for everyone except pregnant women. LOWER Taxes! Less Socialism!
4: Eliminates cuts to the Medicare Disproportionate Share Hospital. This will help a large number of people on Medicaid and uninsured individuals, as the money would go to them! Good!
5: Gives power back to the states to decide who is cut from state medical care on a case by case basis for instances such as lottery winnings, inheritance, or any other cash windfall
6: Protects the states from having to pay for insurance for people who are not eligible. SPECIFICALLY TARGETS ILLEGAL ALIENS. THEY MUST PROVIDE PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP OR NO MEDICAL CARE!
7: Provides a bigger financial safety net for NON MEDICARE EXPANSION STATES by giving more funding to Federal medical assistance percentage. Basically more money to cover people until 2021
8: Says people on State health insurance can be checked for eligibility as frequent as every 6 months now and allows assholes to be fined who defraud the system by applying and getting care despite not qualifying for it.
9: Increases federal fund matching to state expenditures for medical care by 5% increase
10: If any of the 50 states spends too much on healthcare (has excess aggregate medical assistance expenditures) more than what the feds give them after 2020. Then the feds will punish the states for being wasteful and reduce their next payment by 25%!!! OUCH If states waste money, they lose money!
EDIT A: Except for DSH, Medicare cost sharing, safety net provider payments
EDIT B: Then it goes into math explaining how to calculate the federal allotment to the states.
EDIT C: If the states try to fuck around and not give the feds the expenditure info on time they are penalized -1% of previous years allotment.
EDIT D: Gives the feds the power to audit the states to investigate for any fuckery in the expenditure numbers they give the feds.
11: Totally Repeals part of Obamacare that deals with “Reduced cost-sharing for individuals enrolling in qualified health plans” Basically Obamacare said that cost sharing applies how the government says it does. This destroys the poverty trap. GOOD
12: Creates a BRAND NEW Service called ‘Patient and State Stability Fund’ to be administered by the Secretary of Health and Human Services that provides funding to the 50 states through Medicare/Medicaid from 2018 to 2026. This money can be used for the following
A) High risk people who cant seem to get private health insurance
B) Provides incentives to Insurance companies to negotiate with the States to stabilize insurance premiums
C) By reducing the cost of health insurance by helping pay for sick people who use health insurance a lot
D)Promoting competition and participation in the markets
E) Promote emphasis & access on preventative services, dental vision, mental, and substance addictions
F) Paying the Insurance companies directly or indirectly for playing by the rules set by the Admin
G) Provide financial assistance to the states by helping chip in for the costs to help keep costs lower.
13: Explains how a state can be eligible for federal funds. A) State can use funds to pay for 75% of expenses that are between 50k and 350k. If there is left over funds from the previous year, the Secretary of Health and Human Services can decide where to put the money at their discretion.
14: Make it LEGAL for insurance companies to penalize you if you drop health insurance for 63 days or more. IT IS A 30% increase in health insurance penalty for dropping coverage! BOOOO!
15: REPEALS the bronze, silver, gold, platinum healthcare model on Jan 1, 2020.
16: Protects Obamacare “Preexisting condition policy”
17: Grandmothers Obamacare plans. Literally “If you like your plan you can keep it.. by law”
18: Frees insurance companies to add additional abortion coverage and to create whatever they want. Destroys Obamacare Mandate to force every plan to cover abortion. PLUS insurance cannot use federal tax money to pay for or subsidize this in anyway.
19: Any insurance program not included in the healthcare exchange does not qualify for Federal subsidies.
20: Defines Tax Credits for income and tax brackets via age and income for individuals
21: Ends the Premium Tax Credit on Jan 1 2020.
22: Removes Tax Credit For Business Health Insurance that cover Abortions
23: AMENDS (NOT REPEALS) Individual mandate and brings tax to 0% and fine to $0!!! Bye bye Obamacare tax!
24: AMENDS (NOT REPEALS) Employer mandate and brings fines down to $0. This means bye bye 50 employee cap!
25: Repeals Mandatory Employee tax on health insurance. Big Win!
26: Repeals tax on over the counter medication! Cheaper medicine!
27: Reduces Health Savings Account tax from 20% to 10%- 15%
28: Repeals limitations on how much money you can put into a flexible spending account!
29: Repeals Medical Device Excise Tax! Cheaper procedures and cheaper costs!
30: Repeals the law to allow Deduction for expense related to the Medicare D Subsidy
31: Amends Medicare deduction income level growth rate from 10% to 7.5%
32: Creates a refundable tax credit for having health insurance for individuals and to a lesser extent employers for providing it
33: Creates a tax payer subsidy to the insurance companies on Jan 1 2020 run by the Secretary of Health and Human Services
34: Allows the Secretary of Health and Human Services to credit Health Savings Account Directly to anyone who qualifies.
35: Amends Law to removing the artificial cap of $2,250 and Dramatically increasing the amount someone can fund their Health Savings Account
36: Allows spouses to catch up and add more to Health Savings Accounts after the age of 55
37: Lets you use a Health Savings Account for things that happened in the past IF the health insurance was established within 60 days of opening the HSA.
38: Repeals Obamacare tax/fees on prescription drugs totally
39: Repeals Obamacare Health Insurance Tax
40: Repeals Tanning Tax
41: Repeals this monstrosity TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY. BOTTOM LINE LESS TAXES!
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1411
THATS IT! ALL DONE!


56 posted on 05/04/2017 7:04:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: so_real

The people of this country maybe pissed but they are not as desperate as those of Franch. It isn’t even close.


57 posted on 05/04/2017 7:12:29 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: Angels27

“I expect only bad days everyday.”

As a born-n-bred CA Native, I know how living in this State can get to ya; I haven’t been adequately represented in either Sacramento or Washington since I left Orange County in the early 1990’s. Still — Wow! More optimistic times have not been seen outside The Beltway since Reagan left the White House, and all you see is doom and gloom.

Is there really NOTHING Trump wants to accomplish that you also want?


58 posted on 05/04/2017 7:14:08 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Vendome

Only the Left makes war through the courts. That should change.

A good place to start would be suits against Sanctuary Cities and States. When they do not enforce the federal laws there is no legal basis for their actions.


59 posted on 05/04/2017 7:20:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: Vendome

Only the Left makes war through the courts. That should change.

A good place to start would be suits against Sanctuary Cities and States. When they do not enforce the federal laws there is no legal basis for their actions.


60 posted on 05/04/2017 7:20:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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