Posted on 04/09/2017 7:38:52 PM PDT by LS
By way of disclaimer, I have known Steve Bannon for years and we regularly communicate in rather short bursts. So my info on the "inside Team Trump" is pretty one-sided. I don't know Jared Kushner, know OF McMaster and recommended him to Team Trump (as did Victor Davis Hanson). So I know what I know, but it's a pretty limited range of insight.
1. The Syria strikes. I knew going in this would be a firestorm for Trump among his voters, especially the Ron Paul/non-interventionist backers (many of whom you see on Twitter).
I agree with many of you that the evidence was not clear that it was Assad---indeed, it could well have been ISIS. I also agree this does not help in our fight against ISIS. I further agree that regime change is dangerous on a number of levels.
That said, the strike was a multifaceted message, and unfortunately one that absolutely had to be sent, somewhere, somehow.
Recall as many of you have posted, in the past two years, the Russkies have been getting extremely provocative, doing flybys of American ships, sailing into our waters, and so on. Forget who is "responsible" for Ukraine, the fact is Ukraine unloaded its nukes cuz we promised them we would protect them via NATO. Now that promise is vanishing. Our word certainly is not good from the Ukrainian perspective.
I start Syria with Russia because at some point, somewhere, Putin had to get a message that while we want peace and want to work with him, he cannot possibly be allowed to threaten (as he already has) American ships at sea and sail in our waters. This is flat out aggression.
It can be stopped, and nipped in the bud, but how? Consider Syria a "brush back pitch" to the Russian batter. (In baseball, when the hitter takes advantage of the plate and gets too far into the pitcher's zone, the pitcher throws one high and tight to brush him back and say, "No, you have to play by the rules.")
I do believe Putin not only got this message, but was expecting it. He wanted to see if Trump was Obama The bad news is that it had to go on this long, but like any aggressor, the longer you wait, the bloodier it becomes to stop him. I think Putin got the message. Yes, he's making a lot of threats. But he now knows Trump will act when provoked and act DECISIVELY. Whether you agree with the strike or not, you can't accuse Trump of "indecision."
Further, I think the brush-back pitch worked on Iran and the NORKs. Coming as it did when Xi was at dinner (indeed, I hear he was the first one to receive the news of the attack!), it was the equivalent of Trump pulling out a Colt .45 and laying it on the table and saying, "ok, Xi, let's chat." The fact that Xi apparently gave his blessing to American responses to the NORKs--in their own back yard---suggests the meeting was a 100% success. The brush back pitch was felt in China, too.
Many here do not agree with Trump's action. Many think he was being "played." I have heard (haven't verified it) that the "vote" to fire the missiles was unanimous among the NatSec team, including Bannon. He of course would never confirm or deny, nor would I ask. But what we have from "fake" news is one story that it was Kush v Bannon, another that it was Kush/Bannon v Mattis, and a third that it was everyone agreeing.
For the reasons I've outlined above NOT particularly relating to Syria, I believe the latter. Further, this was an opportunity to throw the brush-back pitch without civilian casualties and without a bunch of dead bodies being hauled out of a mosque. In other words, if Team Trump was looking for the "perfect" place to send a message, gas or no gas, this was it.
2. "Chaos/Turmoil inside Team Trump" Lately the Twitter people have been going nuts against Kushner thinking he is engaging in a war on Bannon. First, if you look at the picture of the "bunker" with everyone during the strike, the two people closest to Trump are Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, right behind him. Kush is one person removed. Small things. Second, Bannon himself told me three nights ago, "I ain't goin' anywhere." I'm pretty sure that means DT said so, too. We keep missing this and missing this, but REGULARLY Team Trump throws out a piece of media "cheese" into the maze and the media rats chase it while Team Trump governs. I don't know if the Kush/Bannon "clash" is real or just cheese, but it would not surprise me if the two guys don't go get a beer every night and laugh.
Trump's management style is much like Lincoln's: get a bunch of top, smart people who have different ideas, let them fight, come to a decision that may favor one, the other, or even neither. Don't forget businessmen do not hesitate to drop non-producers. Trump fired Lewandowski, Manafort, and his OWN BROTHER (as did Thomas Watson, Jr. at IBM!) If anyone thinks he won't dump Kush for good reason, think again. Ditto Bannon.
3. McMaster. I vouched for McMaster as did Victor Davis Hanson. McMaster is one of the few people in the Pentagon with actual hands-on success at forming alliances with Muslims against other Muslims. He was a rebel throughout the Iraq war, which kept him from being promoted. He's exactly the type of outside-the-box thinker you want. I'm NOT concerned about his early comments on "radicals" being a minority. Folks, you will not find any commanders in the field, anywhere, saying all Muslims are terrorists. Won't happen, cuz they need locals as interpreters and most of the time as allies. Maybe personally they have different thoughts, but they cannot express those in a combat zone. I think McM's comments were typical of that battlefield thinking.
Bannon's removal from the NSC planning group was predicted in Trump's own plans early on. Bannon was there to de-politicize it, and he has, and he still has top clearance, as you've all seen. I could be wrong, but of all the things to worry about, McM ain't one of them.
Finally, we are in a VERY dangerous position due to Obama. If anyone thinks we could just retreat to our borders, it's way too late for that. The NORK nut could wipe out the entire west coast with a single EMP bomb over the north Pacific. Many here would say "yay," but of course that's crazy. The entire US would be set back massively, Japan would be wiped out and we'd have to retaliate big time. (I do think it's time we reconsider assassination as a policy). Zero let the Russkies run wild. We can nudge them back into their stall, but to act like they aren't out would be a mistake. And we still have to deal with Iran.
None of this is easy, and no one will agree with any one policy. Trump was handed an absolute bag of excrement in foreign policy. I think he is trying to avoid not just one, but three wars, and we all better hope the "brush back pitch" was heeded.
Thank you for taking the time to type that out.
Question for all Freepers: Is this EMP thing a reality? The NKs can barely pop off a rocket half the time, and we are supposed to be scared that they can pull off something as sohpiscated as an EMP hovering over the west coast? Their capitol doesn’t even have consistent electricity and is subject to blackouts.
Personally, I'd be disappointed if the President misrepresented the intel which was used to justify this attack.
Furthermore, I don't think the President should be doing anything which makes him more beholden to an intelligence community which has already proven that it can't be trusted to be loyal to this administration.
I sincerely hope that whatever intel the President acted on was "straight", while at the same time understanding that there were a plenitude of reasons for this action to be taken at this time.
Most of us here on FR are not privy to classified intel, but I would hope that whatever gets presented to the public as justification for an action is indeed at least a reasonable facsimile of what the President based his action on...
I am waiting for him to rename himself Osman.
As for answers you seek...I suggest you call your local and state representatives with your concerns. Because we've already given Trump authorization to do what he thinks best when we voted for him.....and our military knew when they signed up what that could mean if called to do so...and they are prepared well to do just that.
Trump had sufficient questions answered to make the move. Giving the population all those answers is probably unadvisable. He has to make the decisions. We are not his Decision Committee. The efficacy and rationale will be apparent soon enough.
I hope you are right.
It was similar with the Byzantines and the North African, particularly Egyptian agriculture but the Empire lasted a few centuries after all that was lost.
We got the map out and drew a line...and guess where the flight path about came from.
Actually, Trump didn’t “go to war.” His was an enforcement action. It ended with its enactment. It was a tit for multiple tats and is intended to prevent war.
....”In a free country going to war without the informed consent of your people is foolish.”....
That consent was given when you voted for Trump....’your representative’ is congress now and our congress is broken. So anything taken to them would be fruitless and we’d all be bombed to smithereens before they even got to a vote.
I think that has been already conveyed. It might have contributed to the Chinese silence after the dinner with DJT.
Reagan had the same sort of problem with the Intelligence Community and short circuited it by putting in his own channels.
.. before he took action against Assad.???????
So we let them know then that we’re coming?
McCains just upset he’s never been in the loop as with other administrations. So he’s speaking out over Trumps head just as Hillary and the demorats are. He really needs to stop faking being a republican and just get on with it and join the demorats....they “loves him”.
The national grid has NOT prepared for it, however.
Yes, in antiquity all empires were slave empires. All civilizations. That the Ottoman Empire lasted to the First World War is telling of how ‘human’ slavery is!
Muslim doctrine institutionalized slavery just as the Enlightenment started its replacement with the modern ‘wage slave’= a much more efficicent system.
Though the Ottomans’ slave fields reached from Ukraine to the Congo they could not conpete.
And all those melted transformers. The large ones that are made in Korea, and have to be transported by diesel electric rail engines, which will also be a melted mess.
EMP would lead to a 90 percent death rate inside of one year. Nationally.
Yes...I think that often our ideology blinds us from seeing things - reality - as it is. We see it in the Democrats/Left, it’s blatantly obvious. But we fail to see where our own ideology makes us rigid and unable to assess our actual circumstances.
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