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Update: Syria, NORKs, Chicoms, & Russkies
self | 4/10/2017 | LS

Posted on 04/09/2017 7:38:52 PM PDT by LS

By way of disclaimer, I have known Steve Bannon for years and we regularly communicate in rather short bursts. So my info on the "inside Team Trump" is pretty one-sided. I don't know Jared Kushner, know OF McMaster and recommended him to Team Trump (as did Victor Davis Hanson). So I know what I know, but it's a pretty limited range of insight.

1. The Syria strikes. I knew going in this would be a firestorm for Trump among his voters, especially the Ron Paul/non-interventionist backers (many of whom you see on Twitter).

I agree with many of you that the evidence was not clear that it was Assad---indeed, it could well have been ISIS. I also agree this does not help in our fight against ISIS. I further agree that regime change is dangerous on a number of levels.

That said, the strike was a multifaceted message, and unfortunately one that absolutely had to be sent, somewhere, somehow.

Recall as many of you have posted, in the past two years, the Russkies have been getting extremely provocative, doing flybys of American ships, sailing into our waters, and so on. Forget who is "responsible" for Ukraine, the fact is Ukraine unloaded its nukes cuz we promised them we would protect them via NATO. Now that promise is vanishing. Our word certainly is not good from the Ukrainian perspective.

I start Syria with Russia because at some point, somewhere, Putin had to get a message that while we want peace and want to work with him, he cannot possibly be allowed to threaten (as he already has) American ships at sea and sail in our waters. This is flat out aggression.

It can be stopped, and nipped in the bud, but how? Consider Syria a "brush back pitch" to the Russian batter. (In baseball, when the hitter takes advantage of the plate and gets too far into the pitcher's zone, the pitcher throws one high and tight to brush him back and say, "No, you have to play by the rules.")

I do believe Putin not only got this message, but was expecting it. He wanted to see if Trump was Obama The bad news is that it had to go on this long, but like any aggressor, the longer you wait, the bloodier it becomes to stop him. I think Putin got the message. Yes, he's making a lot of threats. But he now knows Trump will act when provoked and act DECISIVELY. Whether you agree with the strike or not, you can't accuse Trump of "indecision."

Further, I think the brush-back pitch worked on Iran and the NORKs. Coming as it did when Xi was at dinner (indeed, I hear he was the first one to receive the news of the attack!), it was the equivalent of Trump pulling out a Colt .45 and laying it on the table and saying, "ok, Xi, let's chat." The fact that Xi apparently gave his blessing to American responses to the NORKs--in their own back yard---suggests the meeting was a 100% success. The brush back pitch was felt in China, too.

Many here do not agree with Trump's action. Many think he was being "played." I have heard (haven't verified it) that the "vote" to fire the missiles was unanimous among the NatSec team, including Bannon. He of course would never confirm or deny, nor would I ask. But what we have from "fake" news is one story that it was Kush v Bannon, another that it was Kush/Bannon v Mattis, and a third that it was everyone agreeing.

For the reasons I've outlined above NOT particularly relating to Syria, I believe the latter. Further, this was an opportunity to throw the brush-back pitch without civilian casualties and without a bunch of dead bodies being hauled out of a mosque. In other words, if Team Trump was looking for the "perfect" place to send a message, gas or no gas, this was it.

2. "Chaos/Turmoil inside Team Trump" Lately the Twitter people have been going nuts against Kushner thinking he is engaging in a war on Bannon. First, if you look at the picture of the "bunker" with everyone during the strike, the two people closest to Trump are Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, right behind him. Kush is one person removed. Small things. Second, Bannon himself told me three nights ago, "I ain't goin' anywhere." I'm pretty sure that means DT said so, too. We keep missing this and missing this, but REGULARLY Team Trump throws out a piece of media "cheese" into the maze and the media rats chase it while Team Trump governs. I don't know if the Kush/Bannon "clash" is real or just cheese, but it would not surprise me if the two guys don't go get a beer every night and laugh.

Trump's management style is much like Lincoln's: get a bunch of top, smart people who have different ideas, let them fight, come to a decision that may favor one, the other, or even neither. Don't forget businessmen do not hesitate to drop non-producers. Trump fired Lewandowski, Manafort, and his OWN BROTHER (as did Thomas Watson, Jr. at IBM!) If anyone thinks he won't dump Kush for good reason, think again. Ditto Bannon.

3. McMaster. I vouched for McMaster as did Victor Davis Hanson. McMaster is one of the few people in the Pentagon with actual hands-on success at forming alliances with Muslims against other Muslims. He was a rebel throughout the Iraq war, which kept him from being promoted. He's exactly the type of outside-the-box thinker you want. I'm NOT concerned about his early comments on "radicals" being a minority. Folks, you will not find any commanders in the field, anywhere, saying all Muslims are terrorists. Won't happen, cuz they need locals as interpreters and most of the time as allies. Maybe personally they have different thoughts, but they cannot express those in a combat zone. I think McM's comments were typical of that battlefield thinking.

Bannon's removal from the NSC planning group was predicted in Trump's own plans early on. Bannon was there to de-politicize it, and he has, and he still has top clearance, as you've all seen. I could be wrong, but of all the things to worry about, McM ain't one of them.

Finally, we are in a VERY dangerous position due to Obama. If anyone thinks we could just retreat to our borders, it's way too late for that. The NORK nut could wipe out the entire west coast with a single EMP bomb over the north Pacific. Many here would say "yay," but of course that's crazy. The entire US would be set back massively, Japan would be wiped out and we'd have to retaliate big time. (I do think it's time we reconsider assassination as a policy). Zero let the Russkies run wild. We can nudge them back into their stall, but to act like they aren't out would be a mistake. And we still have to deal with Iran.

None of this is easy, and no one will agree with any one policy. Trump was handed an absolute bag of excrement in foreign policy. I think he is trying to avoid not just one, but three wars, and we all better hope the "brush back pitch" was heeded.


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KEYWORDS: bannon; belongsinchat; china; dsj02; ls; russia; syria; trump; trumpadm; trumpsyria; trumpsyriastrike; vanity
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To: LS
Thank you for the grounding.

I trust President Trump.

121 posted on 04/09/2017 8:40:22 PM PDT by Becki (Watch and pray)
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To: LS

Amen Amen Amen, thank you for being a voice of sanity in this messy and insane world. Much appreciated.


122 posted on 04/09/2017 8:40:30 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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To: LS
I think the president will be tested again, soon. One of these agents will want to see if the Tomahawks were a fluke or if the president is going to be a consistent actor on the world stage.

I am somewhat curious about the selection of precise targets of the strikes. I had heard that flights were still taking off from that air base.

That Xi was so quiet afterwards seems to me that he and his government aren't yet able to decode the president and aren't sure how to take him. That is refreshing.

123 posted on 04/09/2017 8:40:38 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: LS

Would you agree that unlike War Games, where the only way to win is not to play, in our scenario, the only way to win is to force *everybody* to play all at once, knowing that will crash alliances and force everybody to step down?


124 posted on 04/09/2017 8:40:59 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: eyedigress

They really found out about it with the starfish test back in the early 60s. That one put down electronics over 1400 KM away. And that was when a lot of electronics were of the old tube type which could handle EMPs to a degree.

Anything with a diode is toast.


125 posted on 04/09/2017 8:41:14 PM PDT by crz
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To: John S Mosby

The way I see it, Republicans in Congress paved Obama’s road to ‘transform’ this nation.. particularly lord McCain, and I despise lord McCain as much as Hillry or Obama ...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+mccain+met+with+isis&view=detail&mid=536A2A8CD245634B928A536A2A8CD245634B928A&FORM=VIRE


126 posted on 04/09/2017 8:41:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: LS
That's one of the reasons I left Arizona. The canals in particular seemed like juicy targets.

Up in Minnesota, there is much more fresh water close at hand. ;-)

127 posted on 04/09/2017 8:41:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: John S Mosby

May we live in interesting times.


128 posted on 04/09/2017 8:41:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: crz

I cannot discuss the particulars but a nuc blast overhead will wipe out everything.


129 posted on 04/09/2017 8:44:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: LS

My understanding is that EMPs are one of the easier things to accomplish in the world of nuclear attacks. It doesn’t take MIRV and doesn’t require all that much precision in aim. You just have to make the thing go bang up there. NK definitely has nuclear warheads and either has or will soon have ability to put them on missiles. While their missile program is not terribly impressive to date all the failures are the path to improvement and practical usability. With EMP if they fire ten, only one has to be successful.


130 posted on 04/09/2017 8:45:35 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: eyedigress

Not true.

“North Korea’s last round of tests, conducted in May 2009, appear to have included a “super-EMP” weapon, capable of emitting enough gamma rays to disable the electric power grid across most of the lower 48 states, says Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, a former CIA nuclear weapons analyst and president of EMPact America, a citizens lobbying group.
Samore, who handles arms control and non-proliferation issues, warned that “additional strong sanctions will be imposed on the North with the support of Russia and China.”

North Korea’s nuclear tests have been dismissed as failures by some analysts because of their low explosive yield. But Dr. Pry believes they bore the “signature” of the Russian-designed “super-EMP” weapon, capable of emitting more gamma radiation than a 25-megaton nuclear weapon.


131 posted on 04/09/2017 8:45:57 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: eyedigress
May we live in interesting times.

"May" we?

I think we ARE!

132 posted on 04/09/2017 8:46:20 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m one of those civilians now.

At least we don’t have a gay ass living on some French Island in charge anymore.


133 posted on 04/09/2017 8:47:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Rockitz

SYRIA Norks Chicoms Russkis ... and Iranians
Oh my


134 posted on 04/09/2017 8:48:03 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: John S Mosby; eyedigress
Check out this link and the references therein...
135 posted on 04/09/2017 8:49:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LS; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ASA Vet; Art in Idaho; ...

PING!!!

Article and comments - Update from LS on Trump admin

Thanks, LS and H/T bitt


136 posted on 04/09/2017 8:49:46 PM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: LS

bkmrk


137 posted on 04/09/2017 8:50:27 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: LS

Nothing about Tillerson’s saber-rattling and suggestions that we’re in it for “regime change”. That’s the talk that really irritates me. It implies much more than a “brush-back pitch.”


138 posted on 04/09/2017 8:50:31 PM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: LS

Could you add me to your ping list please? I would appreciate it, and thank you for your informative posts.


139 posted on 04/09/2017 8:50:38 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: eyedigress

The Norks have the use of freighters that could be or already are fitted with launch mechanisms. It doesn’t have to be a Nork freighter.


140 posted on 04/09/2017 8:50:42 PM PDT by arthurus
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