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C.I.A. Judgment on Russia Built on Swell of Evidence (Slimes doubles-down on fake news)
The New York Slimes ^ | 2016-12-11 | Mark Mazzetti and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 12/11/2016 7:35:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

WASHINGTON — American spy and law enforcement agencies were united in the belief, in the weeks before the presidential election, that the Russian government had deployed computer hackers to sow chaos during the campaign. But they had conflicting views about the specific goals of the subterfuge.

Last week, Central Intelligence Agency officials presented lawmakers with a stunning new judgment that upended the debate: Russia, they said, had intervened with the primary aim of helping make Donald J. Trump president.

The C.I.A.’s conclusion does not appear to be the product of specific new intelligence obtained since the election, several American officials, including some who had read the agency’s briefing, said on Sunday. Rather, it was an analysis of what many believe is overwhelming circumstantial evidence — evidence that others feel does not support firm judgments — that the Russians put a thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump, and got their desired outcome.

It is unclear why the C.I.A. did not produce this formal assessment before the election, although several officials said that parts of it had been made available to President Obama in the presidential daily briefing in the weeks before the vote. But the conclusion that Moscow ran an operation to help install the next president is one of the most consequential analyses by American spy agencies in years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; election; fakenews; realpropaganda; trump
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To: Paladin2

LOL!!!


61 posted on 12/11/2016 9:04:55 PM PST by moehoward
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To: RegulatorCountry
Don't get distracted by the man behind the curtain. They are NOT claiming voting machines were hacked. They are talking about the Podesta and DNC email from Wikileaks. But they are being intentionally vague so Joe Six Pack assumes they are talking about voting machines. They are counting on our 15 second attention span to use sound bites to de-legitimize Trumps win. It is subversion plain and simple.
62 posted on 12/11/2016 9:06:40 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: WENDLE

Evidence? We don’ need no steenkin’ evidence.

Remember this one:
“It’s not the nature of the evidence that matters but the seriousness of the charge.”


63 posted on 12/11/2016 9:13:25 PM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is the creation of a false narrative for whatever the Democrat insurgency is planning to do next to incite action from their base to try to overthrow the election. They don’t need any evidence ... all they need is raw emotions to create an uprising.


64 posted on 12/11/2016 9:15:53 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: phoneman08

Here is something you should find interesting. The pushback is picking up:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/john-bolton-russia-hack-a-false-flag-232490


65 posted on 12/11/2016 9:21:12 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wonderful news: Trump’s just been handed the perfect excuse to gut the CIA and rebuilt it with people who put America first.


66 posted on 12/11/2016 9:27:19 PM PST by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Headline of the Day Poll

Why are Democrats saying Russia interferred with the presidential election?

They are concerned with the integrity of the system

They are trying to delegitimize Trump’s presidency

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/2016/12/11/why-are-democrats-saying-russia-interferred-with-the-presidential-election/#ixzz4SY3OjX2F


67 posted on 12/11/2016 9:31:04 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So how in the hell did a couple of maggots at the New Yawk Slimes get access to this “secret” evidence? Hmmmmm? Drain the swamp!!!!


68 posted on 12/11/2016 9:36:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: MPJackal

I’m not distracted by anything. I know what the implication is and the implication is false. I attempted to show the way to undermine the false implication and false impression.


69 posted on 12/11/2016 9:48:12 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So the CIA consensus is that Putin did not want another reset button ?


70 posted on 12/11/2016 9:49:33 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: phoneman08

Agreed. The Dems and the GOP never thought that Trump would win, and I believe the reason for the recounts was to find out why the rigging for Hillary didn’t work. Then they threatened the Electors and that didn’t work. Now the Russian connection is the next step. The people of the united states have lost all control of the country. If the political leaders continue down this path, it will be the destruction of this country


71 posted on 12/11/2016 9:58:42 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

The Globalists (LW Fascists) will stop Trump from being sworn in. If this “Russian Connection” doesn’t work, there will be a significant event in the US, (In my honest opinion) possibly a terrorist attack committed by the Hillary camp or the Feds, and it will be blamed or linked to Trump. If this doesn’t work, the Globalists will kill Trump. These people control the mightiest military, and fund all the worlds terrorism. Trump is the greatest threat to their existence.

We are living in the Last Days of the United States. The Democrats were not able to destroy this country during the Civil war, and now they have finally risen to power where they will kill the United States. This is their revenge.


72 posted on 12/11/2016 10:04:12 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m still confused - how and what did Russia presumably do when they hacked? Give Trump more votes? I keep reading about the hacking but still don’t know what was done. Thanks in advance.


73 posted on 12/11/2016 10:08:03 PM PST by peggybac (My boss I respect, my father I revered. Chris Rock, Mr. Obama is NOT my boss or my father.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

hussein and his fake news outlets are fomenting violence and trying to start a civil war.


74 posted on 12/11/2016 10:31:50 PM PST by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The CIA is saying that Russia manipulated the election by exposing the DNC for manipulating the election?

Merkel and the German government gave Hillary $5 million for her campaign.


75 posted on 12/11/2016 10:40:13 PM PST by mom.mom
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To: Steve_Seattle

More likely that Russia is running the CIA. The CIA needs to disprove that series allegation immediately.


76 posted on 12/11/2016 11:36:10 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Yardstick

The CIA has some very skilled liars.


77 posted on 12/11/2016 11:38:03 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: realcleanguy

A few years ago, I would have believed that you were paranoid, though well intentioned.

Now, I’m afraid you could be right. From everything I’ve seen and heard, they are prepared to unleash hell, no matter the consequences.

Scary times.


78 posted on 12/12/2016 12:54:15 AM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The same agencies that lied about the Gulf of Tonkin, WMD in Iraq, to name just a few of the fairly recent ones? More PSYOPS from liars that want to take down the Republic.

Doesn’t make sense for the Russians to do it. They were already getting what they wanted - most recently uranium, and could have used the info to blackmail her if she was elected.

The Government already assured us that the voting machines can’t be hacked, so they must be referring to hacks on the DNC and/or RNC systems. If someone within either party, or a journalist got the info and published it, would that be ok?

Well of course, that has been happening for years-that’s why we talk about an October surprise. There are 2 real issues here.

1. The material released must be true, because Jesse Jackson rushed out to tell Obama that he had to pardon Hillary, so what is going to be done about her crimes?

2. Politicians and Political parties should use secure systems so that they are not vulnerable to the public knowing their dirty secrets, if they want to engage in devious methods. Otherwise, they leave themselves open to hacking and blackmail, or a random act of journalism that exposes the truth to the American people-don’t hold your breath.


79 posted on 12/12/2016 1:21:08 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: left that other site

These are the same slimes who released information hurting GWB by saying that Iran had halted all it’s Nuclear R&D...


80 posted on 12/12/2016 1:25:38 AM PST by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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