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To: dsm69
A hand recount will not be done before the electors are to meet.

That's precisely the point. If the recall isn't complete, the state's electors will be thrown out, thus lowering Trump's total electoral count.

If they can do that in WI, MI, and PA, Trump will have less than the required 270, thus throwing the election to the House of Representatives.

At least that's the plan.

Per the Constitution, all he needs is a majority of "the electors present" to win on December 19th.

206 posted on 11/26/2016 7:40:13 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

“If the recall isn’t complete, the state’s electors will be thrown out”
LOL!
By whom?
The Republican congress?


211 posted on 11/26/2016 7:46:46 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Windflier

If no candidate has 270 ev’s, then it gets thrown in House of Reps. In there, EACH STATE gets ONE vote. I am sure there are more states with majority republican Reps.


222 posted on 11/26/2016 7:52:35 PM PST by entropy12 (Please Mr President, I am already tired of winning too much! Can we lose just 1?)
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To: Windflier
That's precisely the point. If the recall isn't complete, the state's electors will be thrown out, thus lowering Trump's total electoral count.

Not so.

If the re-count cannot meet the certification deadline imposed by the constitution (12/13), the state legislature is empowered to appoint its own slate of electors to vote in the Electoral College (12/19).

Inasmuch as both houses of the legislature of all three states are controlled by Republicans, Trump will not be denied any EV.

225 posted on 11/26/2016 7:56:41 PM PST by okie01 ( The MainStream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Windflier
If they can do that in WI, MI, and PA, Trump will have less than the required 270, thus throwing the election to the House of Representatives.

This is not what happens. I've posted the Twelfth Amendment so many times I'm sick of it. He only needs a majority of the electors actually appointed. If all three states are disqualified, he still has 260, she has 232. He would win, and the election would NOT go to the House.

226 posted on 11/26/2016 7:57:28 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Windflier

Yes, if all three states electors are unable to cast their combined 46 electoral college votes, then per the 12th amendment, the new electoral college majority needed is 247 votes. Trump is at 260 without these 3 states. Trump wins Electoral College election with 260 votes.

Only way for Hildebeast can win is she can either steal all three or steal PA + either MI or WI, then block the other from casting its electoral votes to narrowly win the new Electoral College majority!

Without these three states Trump leads Hildebeast by 28 electoral votes 260-232. WI and MI would still leave her 2 short of Trump and he barely wins electoral college majority if PA’s electoral voters are blocked from vioting.


232 posted on 11/26/2016 8:03:56 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Windflier

“If they can do that in WI, MI, and PA, Trump will have less than the required 270”

You need to quit singing this song! The 12th amendment talks about the majority duly appointed electors. If these states fail to appoint their electors because the recounts are not done by the December cutoff date, they are left out of the total. 270 is only the correct number for a majority if ALL states submit their votes (538) to the Congress. If the number that ended up being submitted to Congress on 12/19 was say 500, then Trump would only need 251 to win.


246 posted on 11/26/2016 8:17:47 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Windflier

there will be no recount in pa
statutes
http://ceimn.org/ceimn-state-recount-laws-searchable-database/states/Pennsylvania


254 posted on 11/26/2016 8:37:18 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: Windflier
If they can do that in WI, MI, and PA, Trump will have less than the required 270, thus throwing the election to the House of Representatives.

They can't be this stupid. If the electors from these states aren't appointed, the threshold for winning is no longer 270. It's 247. Trump would have 260. The Clinton campaign has to have a lawyer on hand smart enough to mention this.
262 posted on 11/26/2016 9:04:30 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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