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Math Shows Trump Can Still Win: All He Needs is a few Undecided Voters In Battleground States
CBS Marketwatch ^ | Published: Aug 26, 2016 7:39 a.m. ET | Brett Arends

Posted on 08/26/2016 1:50:50 PM PDT by drewh

Donald Trump now needs a swing of only 3 to 4 percentage points in key battleground states to win this election.

The rule is simple: Throw lots of mud and see what sticks. It works. For instance, Trump just called for a “special prosecutor” to investigate the Clinton Foundation: It made for a good headline .

The key issue here is how Trump is polling in context. He has just gone through almost a month of terrible campaign news. Yet he remains within a 4-point swing of winning in battleground states. That should be terrifying for Team Clinton.

No wonder betting on Trump at one exchange is now at its highest level since he launched his ill-fated attack on the Khan family following the Democratic convention. Trump’s odds of winning are up to 29% at Predictit.org, a U.S.-based betting exchange, from a low of 24% last week.

Meanwhile, as Labor Day looms, the campaign has just passed a turning point.

Trump’s core voters are blue-collar whites who are worried about jobs, crime and illegal immigration, and who are resentful of “elites,” which is the new term for uppity snobs. According to Suffolk pollster David Paleologos, Trump does far, far better among likely Michigan voters who have a gun in the house than among those who don’t. He’s even level with Clinton among Michigan women who have a gun in the house, despite a huge gender gap in the rest of the population.

It’s hard to imagine that Trump’s base is ever likely to see any “equivalence” with Clinton, no matter how much he softens his language for the general election.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016swingstates; hillary; media; polls; swingstates; trump; undecideds
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To: eekitsagreek

Who are these people that continually insist that Hillary is far ahead? They’re smoking pixie dust. She’s not even campaigning. Trump is out there everyday holding rallies, making major policy pronouncements, meeting with blacks and latinos, working the ropes, while Cankles can’t even walk without holding onto something. He’s vigorous and enthusiastic, exhibiting great inner strength and almost Reaganesque optimism.

I am confident he’ll win and win big.


21 posted on 08/26/2016 2:45:55 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: edie1960

I maintain that her internals must be imploding!!!
That’s the only plausible rationale behind resorting to a hate speech like she did yesterday.

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Not to mention that she unveiled two new ads in PA today. That’s a total of 5 or 6 individual ads running daily here in PA. That doesn’t seem like the actions of a candidate that is “winning big” here.


22 posted on 08/26/2016 2:56:55 PM PDT by NImerc
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yep. Trump will open the advertising floodgates near Labor Day. Once his campaign begins pounding the Hildebeast, the ads will not stop. Trump’s poll numbers will rise to levels even the propaganda wing of the DNC (aka US ‘media) will be unable to ignore. Trump will need to stay on message and let his ads brutalize Shillary.

Result? President-Elect Donald J. Trump.


23 posted on 08/26/2016 2:57:06 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5, 2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: drewh

RUST BELT RESET


24 posted on 08/26/2016 3:00:09 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (PS - Vote Trump. Vote Coal.)
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To: drewh

Yes, it’s almost all over for Trump... /s SAY WHAT?

He can still win? That’s idiotic.

My take on it is that it’s possible but very unlikely that Hillary will win.


25 posted on 08/26/2016 3:03:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: drewh

I listened a bit to Limbaugh’s show today. His public display of pessimism about Trump’s chance to win the election is approaching the devious. Quoting polls as gospel and final this early is insane. Reagan trailed Carter most of the time in 1980. Presidential campaigns have never been known to be taken seriously before Labor Day.

Today he mentioned how he howled with laughter when Trump came down on the escalator to announce his entry into the race. Then, in his fake Trump impression, he quoted Trump as saying that Mexicans are rapists.

Trump did not say that. He said SOME illegal Mexicans are rapists, which is true. Now, do we have Americans who are rapists? Yes, but that does not make it imperative to allow other countries’ rapist to slip into the country and rape here.

He is slipping, or more likely, still trying to carry out his Sea Island assignment to stop Trump. I don’t remember him having a sarcastic name for Bush supporters, for example, thereby eliminating himself from the group.


26 posted on 08/26/2016 3:06:34 PM PDT by odawg
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To: NImerc

Thanks for sharing that with me.
I wish Mr. Trump would put my state of Maryland in play.
Would be great for him to have a rally in Annapolis at the Naval Academy or maybe the Baltimore suburbs.


27 posted on 08/26/2016 3:36:26 PM PDT by edie1960
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To: IC Ken

Even I, a long time (since 2011) unabashed Trump supporter would have disbelieved you.

It’s starting to look possible, this far from the election.


28 posted on 08/26/2016 4:44:57 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: drewh

He let Hillary define him as a racist. She bombed him on tv for months.

He handed her that stupid ass judge, and the Khans, which was a joke. I can’t understand how he has fumbled as much as he had. He never transitioned from the Primary to what was about to occur. He needs to blast her in the close states on TV.

She is a total criminal, she never helped children, she defended a child rapist. This is not known.

Laureate College is a blatant money grab of US tax dollars, and no one know it, they stole the money.

Bill is a first degree rapist.

Trump has to start throwing bombs. He does not have the prosecutorial skills; he can throw a brick but he cannot shoot an arrow through someone’s jugular. Here is where a Rubio or a Cruz would be melting that witch’s face.


29 posted on 08/26/2016 5:25:02 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: BigEdLB

Would you agree with the proposition that any poll which had a significant Trump margin with undecideds, say 10 per cent, ought to imply a Trump victory?


30 posted on 08/26/2016 7:23:47 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

31 posted on 08/26/2016 7:26:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: BigEdLB

Ooops! I meant a 10 per cent point Trump margin for *independents*


32 posted on 08/26/2016 7:31:50 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; 3D-JOY; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; abigkahuna; adc; Aleya2Fairlie; ...

Make America Great Again

Ping!

This ping provides two daily lists of links to Trump-related threads on FR.
To be added to or dropped from this ping list, freepmail to Albion Wilde.

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Selected Trump articles on FR, from 12:30pm to 11:59pm EDT, 8/26/16:
‘Black Men for Bernie’ Founder to End Democrat ‘Political Slavery’ of Minority Voters… by Campaigning for Trump –Breitbart
Donald Trump FULL INTERVIEW with Kimberly Guilfoyle 8/26/16 (video)
Louisiana Paper Blasts Clinton for Snubbing Flood: Is It Because We’re a Red State? –Breitbart
Trump campaign mgr responds to Clinton tweet (re Klan accusation) –FoxBiz
Media beginning to turn on Clinton? (video)
US: Clinton Calendars Won't Be Released until after Election –AP
Trump Doubles Down: Illegals Must Go and We're Building the Wall –Limbaugh
Stefan Molyneux - Hillary Clinton Attacks Donald Trump and the Alt-Right! (video)
Airlines Refuse to Fly Ill 3-Year-Old to Doctors…Parents Call Trump –ConservTrib
VIDEO=> KKK Grand Dragon Endorses Hillary Clinton –GP
Sorry, Hillary: Trump’s policies are clearly better for blacks –NYPost
The Funky Math of the Electoral College [see post 4] –ScientificAmerican
How Hillary Could Lose Her Lead—Warning from Canada’s Female Prime Minister –Ozy
American People Already Elected Trump: Hillary Sucks at Being on Reality TV –Limbaugh
Huma Abedin Campaigns for Clinton In Muslim Community –Dennis Michael Lynch
Trump Calls Clintons the 'Real Predators’; Dredges Up 'Super Predator' Crime Bill Comments –DM
Julian Assange Fox & Friends FULL Interview [corruption all the way to top] (video)
7 Ways Democrat Policies Are Killing America’s Inner Cities –Breitbart
Americans Affirm Voter ID Laws –AmerThker
The Foreign Policy Establishment’s War on Trump –AmerThnkr
Trump Isn't Shifting On Immigration, He’s Just Using Different Words –Matt Vespa
Democrats’ Weak Bench Undermines Hope of Taking Back Senate –NYT
Why Latinos should vote for Trump –A.J. Delgado
Third Israeli Trump campaign office opens in Tel Aviv –JerusalemPost
The crazy, conspiratorial, paranoid world of Hillary Clinton –Joseph Farah
Ann Coulter Criticizes Donald Trump's Immigration Plan, Blames Roger Ailes –ABC
Palin: ‘No Matter What Trump Does on Immigration, It’s Going to Be Better Than What Hillary Will Do’ –Jeff Poor
Clinton Crash: Trump Closes Gap in Reuters Poll –Joel B. Pollak
Clinton +1 in Latest Breitbart/Gravis poll –Breitbart
Trump Can Still Win: He Needs a few Undecideds In Battleground States –MarketWatch
New Nat’l Poll Tells Different Story than Media Narrative –WestJour
Experts Who Got Brexit Wrong Now Say Trump Can’t Win –NR
TRUMP TAKES LEAD over Clinton in Latest LA Times/Daybreak Nat’l Poll (+1) –GP
Trump’s 20-Pt Lead w Independents Proves Voters Want ‘Outsider’ –Matt.Boyle
Trump's Black Support Explodes In Biggest Battleground State –WND


33 posted on 08/26/2016 9:50:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("They only smear who they fear." --Diamond and Silk)
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To: edie1960

Unlike her husband, she has always been politicaly tone deaf.l


34 posted on 08/26/2016 11:46:55 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: odawg

I heard Rush say that and I turned him off....he makes me sick anymore!


35 posted on 08/27/2016 2:53:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
I really don't understand Rush lately. The last couple of days, he has seemed a little more positive, saying that there could be something going on that the polls are not capturing, but he has not sounded very confident about a Trump win. I know that he and Trump know each other because he has mentioned playing golf with him, so there may be something personal behind his attitude. I refuse to believe that Rush does not want Trump to win, because I have been listening to Rush since the early 90s and he can not possibly want Hillary to be the one who picks the next two or three Supreme Court justices!
36 posted on 08/27/2016 3:36:49 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: BigEdLB
Re> Besides Mexifornia, which are the other two unluckies? HI and VT

That's exactly as I see it. I have said Trump will take 47 since june.

37 posted on 08/27/2016 5:55:26 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: TomGuy
Bean counters are using the same tactics they did during the primaries, questioning how Trump could ever get to 1237 delegates.

Exactly right. I can still remember the doom and gloom around here during March and April when the same "experts" and "consultants" were boldly trumpeting that Donald Trump has "no path" to the 1237 delegates on the first ballot and that we were headed for a "contested convention" in which Trump would surely lose because he had no "ground game" and all he ever did was fly his big plane around and give speeches to thousands of people.

Then Ted Cruz won the April 5 Wisconsin primary and all hell broke lose here. The Ted Cruz supporters were bragging on how their man "played chess while Donald Trump was playing Chinese checkers" or something to that effect and that Ted Cruz was a master manipulator of the delegate game while the amateur Donald Trump was being completely outmaneuvered by the more clever Cruz and blundering away delegates left and right because he "did not know how to play the delegate game."

It was a tough period to be a Donald Trump supporter here on the Free Republic, let me tell you. We were constantly being told that our candidate "had no chance" and that we ought to all come to our senses and get behind a conventional GOP candidate before it was too late.

Then Donald Trump went ahead and ran the table from that point on, capturing 1700+ delegates when all was said and done.

Now we are in the general election and the same nervous nellies, concern trolls and Debbie Downers are here to tell us that our man can't possibly win in November. Doesn't have those "electoral votes" locked up and - shudder - hasn't even run a TV commercial! Oh no! Why is Donald Trump in Texas? Why is he in Connecticut? Why is he opening a campaign office in New Jersey? Why is he going to Washington State next week? Doesn't Donald Trump know that those states are un-winnable and he should just write them off to the Democrats?

If it were up to the armchair campaign managers here, Donald Trump would be living in Ohio and Florida from now until November and wouldn't waste his precious time in states that he "cannot win."

Such a sad defeatist attitude so many people have.

Donald Trump is showing us how to win. It's been a while. I remember the election of 1980 when Ronald Reagan was campaigning in places like Connecticut and in New Jersey.

Go ahead and click on that link above to Reagan's September 1, 1980 speech in New Jersey. Just the first 60 seconds of it will make your day and improve your mood. I guarantee it.

Ronald Reagan knew how to win and how to overcome a hostile media. So does Donald Trump.

I am so optimistic for November!

38 posted on 08/27/2016 6:16:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: SamAdams76

LOL. How many times since June 2015 have we heard by the Media and GOPe -- 'well, this is it! Trump really stepped in it. It's over for him now'?

I count about 62 weeks since he first announced and at least 62 times we were told it was over for him.

They have been trying for that 'macaca moment' for a year. Every time they think they got finally got it, Trump just waves it away and says he isn't going to bother with that PC nonsense.

That causes the Media and GOPe to emulate Chris Wallace and go into motor-boat mode: "... but but but ..."


39 posted on 08/27/2016 7:39:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: edie1960

I agree. She is not likeable. Never has been and with Social Media, her scandals stay in the public eye. On the other hand, Trump is attracting record breaking crowds while in the primaries achieving historic vote totals and defeating 16 seasoned politicians. Massive Voter Enthusiasm. Unless the dems can counteract it, Trump is the next President.


40 posted on 08/27/2016 8:12:01 AM PDT by navymom1
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