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Our Lying Media and The Polls
tomohalloran.com ^ | AUGUST 5, 2016

Posted on 08/05/2016 7:49:56 PM PDT by dontreadthis

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By Max Von Solow PG Farnsworth “We have just completed our own poll since we cannot get factual information from the mainstream media!! we called 1000 homes in each of the 50 states and asked basic questions on the economy, terrorism, immigration and presidential pick.

Economy was the number one factor that Americans are concerned about and terrorism was number two.

Presidential pic was Trump by a large percentage

Trump 33478 votes 67% Clinton 9788 Votes 19% Undecided or other 6739 votes 13% My friends and I are all Graduate students from all walks of life we meet to discuss stuff 13 people who like and have served the military. It took us most of two weeks to be sure our calls were to all people and not just one party or an other we called Americans.. our poll is by taking registered voter lists and we accumulated 33% repub, 33% dems and 34% ind.. our poll consisted of 1000 calls per state. all 50 states. 50,000 people are in this poll not the 100 like other polls.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; hillary; polls; polls2016; trump
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To: entropy12

In my post above, what I meant by “add up the red states” is add up electoral votes of those states where Trump came out the winner.


41 posted on 08/05/2016 11:29:40 PM PDT by entropy12 (95% of career politicians = fuel for the cheap labor express.)
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To: dontreadthis

This would fit with the huge crowds Trump gets everywhere versus the sparse on for Hitlery - that she has to bring people in for


42 posted on 08/05/2016 11:45:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: Red Steel

Just think of all the gasoline burned by those people getting to the Trump rally, and the global warming that is causing.

More proof that Trump is destroying the planet. /s


43 posted on 08/05/2016 11:46:48 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: dontreadthis

1980 - Reagan election

The polls/media all reporting Reagan losing 2 to 1

They did telephone call-in poll 50 cents per call - millions called in HOWEVER- it WAS 2 to one but FOR Reagan -
(Not very ‘scientific”??? )

The dems screamed that it was wrong because republicans could afford to call more times. (I dialed my fingers off (still dial phones then) for over 2 hours to get a call in just once)
and that’s the way the election went...2 to 1 FOR Reagan.


44 posted on 08/05/2016 11:59:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: dontreadthis

This is clickbait. You can’t actually find the poll and there are no state-by-state numbers, the only thing that would add any credibility to it. As was mentioned upthread, state-by-state numbers can be changed into electoral vote projections but, without that, it’s just hearsay.


45 posted on 08/06/2016 1:42:51 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (#GuiltyAsHELLary2016 #KimJungHill)
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To: dontreadthis

I have a barber shop near the Cape Cod Canal in Massachusetts. Im not sure if the type of men who go to barber shops vs salons prejudices this statistic but the overwhelming sentiment favors Trump...at least 85-90% in favor. Older gentlemen who probably still read papers and watch network news , while they loathe clinton, are distrustful of Trump on sone level. They are tormented. Some say they won’t vote but after I get through with them they generally come around a little.


46 posted on 08/06/2016 3:20:38 AM PDT by wally-balls
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To: InterceptPoint

The thing that leaps out at me re this poll is that some 35 40 percent of the people who voted WILL vote Dem no matter what. If Trump wins by 6 I’d consider that pretty big.


47 posted on 08/06/2016 4:14:12 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: TalBlack
The thing that leaps out at me re this poll is that some 35 40 percent of the people who voted WILL vote Dem no matter what.

Even with Reagan's 2 landslides and Bush I first the dems still got their 43% diehard
48 posted on 08/06/2016 5:36:31 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: InterceptPoint

“Sorry to spoil the soup but calling 1000 people from California and 1000 from Wyoming and Rhode Island and ... is not good polling practice.”

This is my understanding as well. If a small state is 90% Trump and a huge state is 60% Clinton, and you have polled 1000 from both, what is that supposed to prove? The big state might have 40 more electoral votes than the small state.

It also seems to me that a true poll of 1000 people from all 50 states might be useful if that info was broken down by state on the website.

Freegards


49 posted on 08/06/2016 6:02:59 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: entropy12

That’s it exactly, it would be cool to see a state by state breakdown.

Freegards.


50 posted on 08/06/2016 6:04:31 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dontreadthis

The media got the country in the mess it is in, by pushing Obama and his Agenda starting 8 years ago.


51 posted on 08/06/2016 6:09:10 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Iron Munro

True more proof that democrats always have more voters then people Obama won in Ohio by 108% of the votes.


52 posted on 08/06/2016 6:39:50 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: FreedBird

The media took control of the country after it found it could destroy a Senator (McCarthy). They went into high gear after they pulled a media coup and deposed Nixon.


53 posted on 08/06/2016 6:43:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: wally-balls

If you’re subjecting your customers to your politics while cutting their hair, it’s very likely that you’ve accumulated a passel of like-minded customers over the years. The libs are going elsewhere.


54 posted on 08/06/2016 8:54:54 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Ransomed

Until that breakdown you suggest actually is provided, I’d call BS on the poll itself.

If you’re going to go to that amount of work, and calling 50,000 people (actually a lot more to get 50k responses) is a hell of a lot of work. Thirteen people making calls...about 4,000 successful calls each...five minutes to reach a responding voter...twelve responses per hour...that’s over 300 hours per person...or seven weeks of full-time work...per person. Seven weeks. Double the calls per hour and it’s still almost a month of full-time work for all 13 people.

Anyone doing that much work would provide more information than the raw totals, especially with such stunning results. I call hoax.


55 posted on 08/06/2016 9:08:09 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: MaxistheBest

Dear Son

GROW UP.

I’ve been at FR much longer than you have..time for you to dry behind your ears and get a life..


56 posted on 08/06/2016 9:58:19 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: InterceptPoint

You’re right — votes/state does not translate into Electoral College votes. However, it’s not at all unusual to start with the same sample size/state — in order to get to the same confidence interval. Results can then be weighted by whatever factors one chooses.

There are all sorts of other considerations: breakdown by sex/race/ethnicity/sexual orientation/income class/etc. Those considerations can affect sample size. If you want (e.g.) to compare male to female voters, you will have a larger margin of error for each subgroup — unless you increase the sample size. When you adjust the sample size for any subgroup, you have to use weighting factors in analysis, to avoid distorting your results.

It’s really impossible to say whether or not the survey in question was done right; without seeing their complete methodology. Just from the article, I can think of a several possible threats to the validity of the results (you’ve mentioned some of them)— but we just don’t have enough information to be sure.


57 posted on 08/06/2016 10:57:19 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Norseman

Unless there are more clarification details coming, I tend to agree with your assessment. This guy says 13 people got it all done in two weeks.

Freegards


58 posted on 08/06/2016 11:13:40 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Norseman

If you’re subjecting your customers to your politics while cutting their hair, it’s very likely that you’ve accumulated a passel of like-minded customers over the years. The libs are going elsewhere.


Actually, I make it a point to be Switzerland while in my shop, and though I don’t discourage the free exercise of opinions amongst and between my customers, I do demand that the conversation remain respectful and cordial. I rule with an iron fist. It’s in that spirit that I have accumulated the aforementioned data. All are welcome


59 posted on 08/06/2016 12:13:10 PM PDT by wally-balls
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