Posted on 06/26/2016 4:39:03 PM PDT by mandaladon
Battleground states are called battlegrounds for a reason: They're often close, and 2016 looks like no exception.
Hillary Clinton holds narrow leads over Donald Trump across a number of key states of Florida (up three points, 44 to 41 percent); Colorado (Clinton 40 percent, Trump 39 percent); Wisconsin (Clinton up 41 percent to 36 percent) and North Carolina, which has flipped back and forth between the parties in the last two elections, where it's Clinton 44 percent and Trump 42 percent.
In the wake of the Brexit referendum in the United Kingdom this week, many wondered if the same sentiments that drove voters to leave the UK, such as voter unease about the economic and cultural effects of globalization, were at work in the U.S. presidential election, too.
Similar sentiments underpin Donald Trump's general election vote, though there is not yet enough for him to surpass Clinton. Trump is also competitive in large part because of partisanship, as rank-and file Republicans continue to get behind him, even as Republican leaders have been more lukewarm toward the way Trump is running his campaign.
About one-third of voters in these states feel the U.S. has done too much in trying to become part of the global economy; too much to make changes to its culture and values, and encouraged too much diversity of people from different backgrounds.
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its like the GOP doesn’t want to win. Is there some reason they believe Cruz could be doing better than Trump? These states are in MoE; the election is not about who gets the most votes nationwide (plurality or majority, either or), but who wins a majority of electoral votes by getting pluralities or majorities in states that sum to 270 electoral votes.
Rubio? Mr. Amnesty? The voters who are coming out for Trump would be staying home otherwise.
How can this be with all the polls showing Clinton ahead by 12 points. /sar
ONE THIRD of the voters resent losing this country’s culture and values? The other two-thirds ought not vote because they don’t care about this country.
Warning: Washington Post polls are junk surveys with major sampling bias issues
6-26-16 | Lowly sidebar mod
Posted on 6/26/2016, 5:12:05 PM by Sidebar Moderator
The Washington Post is actively trying to demoralize the Republican base to depress fundraising and recruitment and ultimately to suppress turn out in November by promoting their false narrative that Trump has no chance. Think about that before posting the same poll over and over from different sources. You know who you are.
Yah, and the brexit vote is going to result in “remain”. I read the polls, donchaknow.
I can believe the polls that show the race is tight in swing states, but these polls showing a double digit lead for Clinton are ridiculous. I hear what people are saying.
But...but...Crooked Hillary is beating Trump by double digits!!
But but but but.... Hillary is up by 12+!
Its not supposed to be a tight race!
I mean Reuters/Ipsos and NBC/Washington Post said so!
“The Washington Post is actively trying to demoralize the Republican base to depress fundraising and recruitment and ultimately to suppress turn out in November by promoting their false narrative that Trump has no chance.”
Ditto to same tactic used by Limbaugh. No doubt he will go on for 3 hours tomorrow about how Trump has no chance, all the while telling you he really wants Trump to prevail.
What are you talking about? Rush says almost the same thing about these polls.
I saw the polls-—they had no internals so no way of evaluating D/R splits. If these are even REMOTELY like the Reuters/ABC polls? Trump has the election locked already. If these are realistic splits, Trump is still in good shape in June, esp. if these are “registered” not “likely” voters.
Well, these polls are a bit more believable than that one showing Hillary up by 12.
Trump has not seriously started the campaign yet. Meanwhile, Hillary is shelling out tens of millions on ads that basically whine about Trump. She has nothing positive to say about herself, and she isn’t actually showing up for her own campaign. It may be part of Trump’s strategy to get her to spend her warchest early, while he holds back and waits until the election draws close before releasing a salvo.
Despite the fact that he has not seriously started the campaign, he is letting us know how much material he has to hit Hillary with. He just tweeted this today: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/ClintonFacts.pdf. It is a 35 page list of examples of Hillary’s horrendous judgment, with references.
Romney would not criticize Obama, despite having mounds of material to work with. It was like he expected us to just vote for him without giving us any particular reason why, or why we should not vote for Obama. Trump is not going to make that mistake. He is not afraid to speak his mind.
There has to be a disconnect here.
There’s no way, if Hillary is up 12 points nationally, that so many of these battleground states are so tight.
On the other hand, with tight races in the battleground states, this would imply that the race nationally is much tighter than 12 points.
Watched Pat Caddell on FNC earlier this evening; he said the ABC News/WaPo poll is always the outlier among MSM surveys and noted they have a long history of over-sampling Dims, hence that double-digit lead for Hillary. He also chided Doug Schoen for touting HRC’s lead in the swing states when most of those polls are within the margin of error.
Take any poll you see this year with a huge grain of salt. It’s becoming more and more difficult to develop a realistic model and generate a sample that accurately reflects the modeling.
Additionally, to no one’s real surprise, all of the FNC “political insiders” said the “revolt” movement in the U.S. is much further along than it is in Britain and we know what happened in the U.K. last week.
Shitlery is gonna be popped like a zit ...
These CBS polls in FL, NC, CO and WI are the best news Trump has gotten so far. The WI and CO are great news...these all are in play or better. The stage could be set.
I’ve spent alot of time on www.270towin.com and am finding some interesting information. In each of these 4 swing states except NC which he lost in 2012, Obama won each both years, 2008 and 2012. The interesting note is that he lost ground in each state, winning but with a smaller margin from 2008 to 2012. In Fl, AZ, CO, WI, NC, NV, NM, OH, PA, NH, and VA he lost voter % in 2012, in all cases by a considerable amount, even up to 4%. That’s 11 states that Trump can win in that are already giving up Obama/Clinton voters.
The Trump campaign is pushing hard for donations; I love it; just got an email from Paul Manafort and got the text link on my cell to www.lyingcrookedhillary.com, both with big pushes for money. Up until last this past week, Trump has not asked for any money in any organised way. I think we owe it to him for where he has gotten us so far. We are going up against a $2 billion campaign machine, with another $1 billion worth of MSM reporting help.
The odd thing is that while many of the bigger donors have not stepped up yet or are finding excuses not to, once they see that we can deliver a serious punch up in dollars, they will jump on the bandwagon. Better late than never!
Imagine if Team Trump can find a way for 15 million supporters to donate an average of $50.00 each. That’s $750,000,000.00!! It’s not that his supporters have given that much through the primaries and to date in the general; maybe $20-25 million total from small donors. Bernie Sanders raised over $185 million from small donors. It should not be a stretch for us to get to $200-250 million or more.
My wife and me just started to go through our garage and storage closets to find items we don’t need and we are going to put them all on Craigslist. We already have enough small items that we will never use to easily sell for $150.00 or more over the next 2 weeks. That would put us over $300 donated so far.
And we have decided to volunteer in Florida to work the phones. We live on a tight budget for sure, and I’m guessing many of you are in a better financial position to match what we are doing. If not then do what you can. If you haven’t donated yet, now is the time! If you think this election will be close, then let’s put Trump over the top. If you think he will win, let’s make it a big victory, so he can pummel the Rino’s in DC.
Let’s do this !!!
Very good points. Thank you.
TV is not real life.
Exactly!
Be a cold day in hell before Hillary Clinton wins NC. Obama is despised in the state and she’s despised as bad as he is.
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