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Spain’s once mighty socialists succumb to populist rage
FT ^ | 6/14/2016 | Tobias Buck

Posted on 06/14/2016 11:35:34 PM PDT by Fhios

... "The fact is that in Spain and elsewhere in Europe, voters have come to associate the centre-left with many of the (unpopular) policies traditionally championed by the right: austerity, deregulation, liberalisation, free trade." ...

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TOPICS: Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexistsipras; borisjohnson; brexit; brixit; churchill; economy; europe; europeanunion; france; germany; greece; italy; kenyan; kenyanbornmuzzie; london; nato; nigelfarage; obama; populism; portugal; sirwinstonchurcill; socialists; spain; syriza; trump; ukip; unitedkingdom; winstonchurchill
The reason? The Progressivism and Globalism have left a huge divide between their base and the Center Left. Center Left all of a sudden becomes conservative because the Progressives have over reached and will now be punished.
1 posted on 06/14/2016 11:35:35 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

Actually this is the end result of the Euro. Socialist policies existed in these low producing countries because the government could just print money. Guarantee 5% a year raise, even though GDP is stagnant? No problem just print 5% more money every year...

Once the Euro became the currency this option no longer exists for them so to keep the policies going their only choice was to borrow. Eventually they could not borrow any more and the Eu forced austerity on them and their policies. Which of course the public doesn’t like since its been having a cushy lazy ride for generations.. So end game they lash out at the socialist party that was in power the whole time.

Just miniature Greece. Lots more of this is going to happen

2 posted on 06/14/2016 11:54:28 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Fhios

In power, parties of the Left find that the demands of governing force the embrace of policies they opposed when out of power. Most importantly, the state, as a heavy borrower, needs orderly and secure bond markets. Despite hostility toward the wealthy, governments of the Left need the wealthy and their financial intermediaries to buy government bonds.

3 posted on 06/15/2016 12:12:08 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Fhios

No, it is because the Eurozone has been flooded with nasty tempered Muslims which have become a threat to all of Europe and the people know that is the left’s fault.

4 posted on 06/15/2016 12:28:54 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: HamiltonJay
IMO ...

There is a global upheaval occurring ... similar to the global wave of hippies and anti-US sentiment of the 60's

The internet is more than likely the cause for people of all nations to connect and learn of other cultures than their own and are coming to realize THEIR own culture has been ripping them off

God has given man an innate awareness of HIMself and without corroberation, a thinker is left to himself in silence and all too often, persecution

The whole world is throwing their TV's out the window and shouting, "We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore"

5 posted on 06/15/2016 12:56:15 AM PDT by knarf
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To: Fhios

“Populism” is the default media term for nationalism I’ve noticed. People understand nationalism, but calling it populism confuses the issue of whether people want to keep their own nation-state or be part of a big crony capitalist “global community”.

6 posted on 06/15/2016 1:18:25 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

I don’t think nationalism and populist are the same anymore.

7 posted on 06/15/2016 1:49:08 AM PDT by Fhios (The U.S needs Hillary like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: Fhios

They never were. Conservatives used to hate populism.

8 posted on 06/15/2016 3:18:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Fhios

So if the left wing is polling badly because they have adopted the policies of the right, is the right polling better? If so, have they shifted left or further right?

9 posted on 06/15/2016 3:54:29 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Europe has different populist parties - some had Communist roots like Greece’s Syriza, some came from fascism such as France’s National Front and some are conservative, like the UK’s UKIP.

What they all have common is a rejection of globalism, neoliberalism and multi-culturalism. So despite differing ideological origins, populists all arrive at basically the same place.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is a populist on the right side of the political spectrum.

10 posted on 06/15/2016 3:56:21 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Populism is a rejection of the establishment.

Whoever is in power takes it on the chin.

You have Bernie Sanders on the Left and Donald Trump on the Right.

Populism is more or less here to stay.

11 posted on 06/15/2016 4:11:11 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: knarf

I agree with you. We are seeing the collapse of the post WWII order. It began with the dissolutions of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union, but the globalist, UN, secular state fantasy is now falling apart in the West as well.

12 posted on 06/15/2016 5:32:33 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Fhios. The imbecilic hard-left dimwit Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, appears to be the most vociferous in his support — more accurately, in his attacks on Brexit supporters — for continued UK-EU unity. The referendum is a week from today.

13 posted on 06/15/2016 6:06:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Conservatives used to hate populism.

Populism can win. There are no longer enough Conservatives out there to win elections. A Populist who believes 60% of what I do is likely the best I can hope for at present.

14 posted on 06/15/2016 7:20:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: goldstategop
This kind of conversation and commentary needs to keep going

I, personally, like the defining words that help me formulate my own language

FR is the greatest true educator of our modern time(s)

15 posted on 06/15/2016 8:14:53 AM PDT by knarf
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