Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles
I just wanted to stop and take a breath here before the media hand feeds us a meme that will live forever in people's minds. The initial attack in Orlando brought several meme's out of the woodwork but what stuck initially was the shooters name was Arab so bing, bang, boom, there's the answer. I agree Islam is from the devil and deserves much scrutiny for any philosophy that condones killing women, homosexuals, Christians, all infidels, and of course other Muslims that don't think just like you do. And of course, the automatic gun control effort rears it's ugly head again due to the very reason I am bringing up right now.
The meme the media ascribes to a story lasts way beyond the actual conclusion of any investigation and makes it into history as truth, whether that is the case or not. Just as the lie that Christians murdered Mathew Shepard, we later found out they were both dope dealers and one stole the others money and was murdered for it. They were both homosexuals and I don't know of any church they frequented, but it somehow was ascribed as a homophobic murder by out of control Christians. Ask anyone today what it was and it will be intolerant Christians murdering a homosexual. Nothing about drugs and nothing about the other homosexual.
Another meme not advertised anywhere is many if not most of the serial killers in history have been homosexuals. John Wayne Gacey molested children and men and then murdered them, but no one seems to connect they they were all male. Jeffery Dahmer got the same treatment. Most that even know the story relate him with eating his victims, but somehow it's left out that he was homosexual.
Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual. It's easier to tie mass murder with Islam than to being a homosexual because that's not the meme the media has been building. I'm writing this just to pose some questions before this gets nailed down in people's mind.
Just as a hypothetical thought process, lets explore another meme that could be real. His Father seems to be against sodomy and devout in Islam. He has been a disappointment to his father. He marries to complete the charade to the world. You can't tell me this doesn't happen many times in the homosexual world to try to fit in. Finally he succumbs to his inner demons and experiences his innermost fleshly needs and is so disgusted that he is in the terrible place of knowing he has just fell into a no win situation of placating the world and satisfying his flesh. Many psychiatrists in the past would describe homosexuals as "self loathing". Dahmer made statements like this during his captivity that he was so ashamed of what he did that he killed the witness and his family would never find out. Having sex with a corpse was acceptable because they were compliant and didn't fight so much giving him more time do do as he wished.
My point is, if the media wants to cut the investigation short and stamp it "Terrorism", that might now explore all the contributing factors that may have played a part. What if he decided to attack Disney? What if he attacked a school? But he somehow chose a homosexual bar that he frequented in the past. We would never want to attach mental illness with homosexuality so there is nothing to see here, please move on. Aren't we all "proud" now? Aren't we all out of the closet now?
I just hope we study this completely instead of just moving on and accepting the meme hand fed to us by the media.
Other examples that just irk me to no end is "Clinton's economy was good". I lived through that time and the first couple of years was a tax hike, followed by a sick economy, and the Dems were thrown out and replaced with the Republican majority led by Newt Gingrich. They were the ones that cut taxes, cut spending, balanced the budget and forced Clinton to accept welfare reform. Today, we are still fed that Bill Clinton was the cause of the "Clinton" economy. Just as Obama will be credited with killing Osama forever, even though Bush did everything humanly possible, including waterboarding, to get him. But Obama didn't have to waterboard to kill Osama. Can you see how the meme that is left becomes important for the future? Greedy bankers caused the economic crash in 2007, even though Bush and McCain tried to stop lending money to people that couldn't pay it back. The whole Black Lives Matter movement is based on vapor. Travon Martin stalked Zimmerman for 4 minutes and started the confrontation according to the prosecution's own witness. Oh, and Zimmerman isn't even white. The blacks that have been killed illegally are being decided as we type right now. Some are obviously shot in the back as they put up no struggle, and they will be decided in court where they belong, so what's the gripe? Mikey Brown was proven that he struggled for the officer's gun and never raised his hands, but you see what we have today. Just ask 10 years from now what happened there and they will tell you the police murdered him with his hands up. This has gone on in Waco and Ruby Ridge ans countless other examples.
If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie. I don't have a problem over war with ISIS, but at least let's keep it for the right reasons. It's always important to pursue the truth even if it doesn't fit the meme you want to put forward. There is so much of this now, we can't tell the truth from the lies. I would imagine most voters don't even know Obama was raised in Indonesia as a Muslim, learned the Quran, and speaks Farsi. When we look at his bizarre relationship with Muslims and Muslim countries, they can't imagine that he likes them, thinks like them, and probably believes much of what they believe. It's too late to even bring these things up now because most will think we are still worried about his Birth Cert. Just as people have forgotten when Bush 43 attacked Iraq, we were under a cease fire from 41, Saddam was firing daily at out aircraft, and not cooperating with any of the items on the cease fire agreement. He didn't even need to ask for permission to attack Iraq even though he did. Does anyone remember Iraq planned to assassinate Bush 41 and was caught.
If the media gets to dictate what the meme will be on a subject, they are manipulating the younger people as to how they should think. That makes them vulnerable to the Left for the next 50 years. If you can believe it, they are about to allow blood donations from homosexuals again. Somehow now that marriage is OK, they must be as clean as the next fellow. This is how we get men standing around in women's restrooms because they will argue the trannies never hurt women. When you ask what about the pervert that just got out of prison, they look at you like what are you talking about, the law is for trannies. Somebody has convinced them that the man in the bathroom is somehow OK now. It matters where the motives lie as we see now in Europe where White women offer up their daughters to these innocent mistreated Muslims running for their lives. If we find out that Orlando came from a man ashamed or maybe even a jilted lover, does that really matter how we feel about Muslims? Not really, but I still prefer the truth.
The shooter calling upon Allah was not a tip off?
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While many claim that Muslims are not well adjusted and prone to violence, the same has been suggested of gays. Just consider that type of violence exhibited in “Bug Parties” http://gaylife.about.com/od/GlossaryB/g/Bug-Party.htm
Islam is a homoerotic ideology. It creates closet homosexual men as a means of bonding the men and creating a wall between them and women. It creates a sexual tension inside them by instilling a women are for procreation and men (or boys) are for recreation mindset.
So, this guy acted out on his gay impulses. But, his murderous attack is still 100% islam.
If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie
Poor, misunderstood muslims. They were blamed, yet innocent!
He called 911 and told them he was ISIS Jihadist. He was went to mosque that preached the death of non-Muslims including gays, was what faithful obedient Muslims do. More and more details are coming out about his Islamic beliefs being jidhadist, his trips, his family, his possible training ....etc.
Mental illness...homosexual may be contributing factors in the effects cbut Islam is the cause.
The shooter shouting Allahu Akbar, laughing as he shot, and going around and shooting the wounded seems to me a real solid indicator that he was a radical Islamist and not a Southern Baptist. Additionally, today news reports indicate that his current wife may be charged for knowing about the plan and taking him to the sodomite club several times.
You may miss the fact that male-male relations are widespread among muslims. Child molestation is widespread. This is particularly so among Afghans. They don’t consider it homosexuality, but of course it is.
So the relationship between jihad and mistreatment of women and the murder of homosexuals is even more interconnected than you indicate. And this most assuredly includes Taliban and ISIS. These people are seriously messed up. And they attract other messed up people. Jihad is a way that messed up people reach for redemption; their religion offers them no way out that doesn’t end in death and murder.
The point of the post was just to look into other motives for his actions. Why call 911 while you are shooting to pledge allegiance to ISIS? Maybe he just got jilted by his lover and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. Just sayin.
Maybe both. A few months ago, Michael Savage spent most one show talking about the inbreeding that goes on in many Islamic groups. There's some sort of obsession to keep their family bloodlines pure and the result is the kind of genetic decay and mental deficiency that has been seen in European royalty.
Pledges his support to ISIS
That’s the ONLY meme we should make sure is remembered
A brief cheat sheet to understanding the mohammedan mindset.
Any observant mohammedan is commanded to kill anyone who does not follow the mad mo or who does not do so with enough fervor.
Any sex that includes a male mohammedan being dominate and enjoying himself is right. This includes sex with infants, children, women, castrated men, animals and rocks. Any sex where anyone else gets pleasure is wrong.
Anything that a male mohammedan wants it is his right to take.
Anything a mohammedan wants you to do you had better do or he will kill you.
Those that are “peaceful” will, unless they are not observant, aid and abet and defend the above even if they do not feel secure enough to take part.
“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie”
So what’s the “lie”? Plenty of evidence already this guy was motivated by radical Islam. Plus, his wife is singing like a bird. Maybe the guy had bisexual fantasies, but that didn’t cause him to cheer 9/11 or pal with the American suicide bomber at his mosque.
And shooting homosexuals over and over while stone faced, cool and calm, or laughing, while shouting Allahu Akbar doesn’t leave any room for doubt
He’s a Jihadi. QED.
WTF is this drivel? Stop making excuses for the fact that this massacre of Americans is, first and foremost, a crime by your garden variety islamic-fascists.
Muslims are dangerous - whether they are hetero, homosexual, or “transgendered.”
In Western civilization justice is delivered by structures created by the people and administed by elected officials. The individual, called a vigilante, is forbidden by those structures from enforcing any “justice.” Vigilantes are punished as criminals.
However, Islam is fundamentally different than Western civilization. For example, nowhere in Arabic and related languages is there a word for citizen. They don’t see themselves as members of nations. They don’t ascribe to any of the social structures Westerners use, like police, prosecutors and judges. All of those non-religious structures are, instead, vested in mostly self-appointed individuals called imams. These are men who have developed a following, and depending on that following have varying levels of power. They can act as police, judge, jury and executioner. In fact, the Koran teaches that ANY Muslim who considers himself devout, can act as police, judge, jury and executioner.
If this was a “citizen” and he acted thus, he would be a vigilante. But a Muslim who acts thus is a pious Muslim. So, they are empowered, each of them, to kill those who are not Muslims.
John Wayne Gacy was acting on purely selfish sexual motives and he did not pretend that he was anything but a criminal. But a Muslim who kills is fully justified, if only in his own mind, by his beliefs. There is a world of difference. Gacy was just one man. But Islam is carried like the plague by one point five billion people.
My red editors pen was itching reading all that - good golly.
The whole thing is really quite simple and can be summed up in much fewer woods.
Here’s the whole ball of wax.
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Millions of GUNS in this group - yet none of them - not ONE of these guns has ever committed a terrorist attack. Not ONE.
Explain that, if GUNS are the problem. There’s two groups of ‘IT”S THE GUNS’
1: the gov’t, and their willing puppets - who would like to, like all dictators, get protection out of the hands of the citizens - to make it easier to take over - .... and the stupid.
Which are you?
Why does your OPINION about something even need its own thread?
Why couldn’t you simple add this to a post—or posts—on many of the dozens and dozens of threads on the MUSLIM TERRORIST attack on US soil we already have????
I really don’t care if he was a homo or all his victims were homos. He was of the DEATH CULT ISLAM, called it for ISIS and screamed Allah Ackbar as he knowingly killed AMERICANS (many of whom happened to be gay).
That my FRiend is terrorism of the Islamic kind.
Same Shi’ite, different day.
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