Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles
I just wanted to stop and take a breath here before the media hand feeds us a meme that will live forever in people's minds. The initial attack in Orlando brought several meme's out of the woodwork but what stuck initially was the shooters name was Arab so bing, bang, boom, there's the answer. I agree Islam is from the devil and deserves much scrutiny for any philosophy that condones killing women, homosexuals, Christians, all infidels, and of course other Muslims that don't think just like you do. And of course, the automatic gun control effort rears it's ugly head again due to the very reason I am bringing up right now.
The meme the media ascribes to a story lasts way beyond the actual conclusion of any investigation and makes it into history as truth, whether that is the case or not. Just as the lie that Christians murdered Mathew Shepard, we later found out they were both dope dealers and one stole the others money and was murdered for it. They were both homosexuals and I don't know of any church they frequented, but it somehow was ascribed as a homophobic murder by out of control Christians. Ask anyone today what it was and it will be intolerant Christians murdering a homosexual. Nothing about drugs and nothing about the other homosexual.
Another meme not advertised anywhere is many if not most of the serial killers in history have been homosexuals. John Wayne Gacey molested children and men and then murdered them, but no one seems to connect they they were all male. Jeffery Dahmer got the same treatment. Most that even know the story relate him with eating his victims, but somehow it's left out that he was homosexual.
Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual. It's easier to tie mass murder with Islam than to being a homosexual because that's not the meme the media has been building. I'm writing this just to pose some questions before this gets nailed down in people's mind.
Just as a hypothetical thought process, lets explore another meme that could be real. His Father seems to be against sodomy and devout in Islam. He has been a disappointment to his father. He marries to complete the charade to the world. You can't tell me this doesn't happen many times in the homosexual world to try to fit in. Finally he succumbs to his inner demons and experiences his innermost fleshly needs and is so disgusted that he is in the terrible place of knowing he has just fell into a no win situation of placating the world and satisfying his flesh. Many psychiatrists in the past would describe homosexuals as "self loathing". Dahmer made statements like this during his captivity that he was so ashamed of what he did that he killed the witness and his family would never find out. Having sex with a corpse was acceptable because they were compliant and didn't fight so much giving him more time do do as he wished.
My point is, if the media wants to cut the investigation short and stamp it "Terrorism", that might now explore all the contributing factors that may have played a part. What if he decided to attack Disney? What if he attacked a school? But he somehow chose a homosexual bar that he frequented in the past. We would never want to attach mental illness with homosexuality so there is nothing to see here, please move on. Aren't we all "proud" now? Aren't we all out of the closet now?
I just hope we study this completely instead of just moving on and accepting the meme hand fed to us by the media.
Other examples that just irk me to no end is "Clinton's economy was good". I lived through that time and the first couple of years was a tax hike, followed by a sick economy, and the Dems were thrown out and replaced with the Republican majority led by Newt Gingrich. They were the ones that cut taxes, cut spending, balanced the budget and forced Clinton to accept welfare reform. Today, we are still fed that Bill Clinton was the cause of the "Clinton" economy. Just as Obama will be credited with killing Osama forever, even though Bush did everything humanly possible, including waterboarding, to get him. But Obama didn't have to waterboard to kill Osama. Can you see how the meme that is left becomes important for the future? Greedy bankers caused the economic crash in 2007, even though Bush and McCain tried to stop lending money to people that couldn't pay it back. The whole Black Lives Matter movement is based on vapor. Travon Martin stalked Zimmerman for 4 minutes and started the confrontation according to the prosecution's own witness. Oh, and Zimmerman isn't even white. The blacks that have been killed illegally are being decided as we type right now. Some are obviously shot in the back as they put up no struggle, and they will be decided in court where they belong, so what's the gripe? Mikey Brown was proven that he struggled for the officer's gun and never raised his hands, but you see what we have today. Just ask 10 years from now what happened there and they will tell you the police murdered him with his hands up. This has gone on in Waco and Ruby Ridge ans countless other examples.
If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie. I don't have a problem over war with ISIS, but at least let's keep it for the right reasons. It's always important to pursue the truth even if it doesn't fit the meme you want to put forward. There is so much of this now, we can't tell the truth from the lies. I would imagine most voters don't even know Obama was raised in Indonesia as a Muslim, learned the Quran, and speaks Farsi. When we look at his bizarre relationship with Muslims and Muslim countries, they can't imagine that he likes them, thinks like them, and probably believes much of what they believe. It's too late to even bring these things up now because most will think we are still worried about his Birth Cert. Just as people have forgotten when Bush 43 attacked Iraq, we were under a cease fire from 41, Saddam was firing daily at out aircraft, and not cooperating with any of the items on the cease fire agreement. He didn't even need to ask for permission to attack Iraq even though he did. Does anyone remember Iraq planned to assassinate Bush 41 and was caught.
If the media gets to dictate what the meme will be on a subject, they are manipulating the younger people as to how they should think. That makes them vulnerable to the Left for the next 50 years. If you can believe it, they are about to allow blood donations from homosexuals again. Somehow now that marriage is OK, they must be as clean as the next fellow. This is how we get men standing around in women's restrooms because they will argue the trannies never hurt women. When you ask what about the pervert that just got out of prison, they look at you like what are you talking about, the law is for trannies. Somebody has convinced them that the man in the bathroom is somehow OK now. It matters where the motives lie as we see now in Europe where White women offer up their daughters to these innocent mistreated Muslims running for their lives. If we find out that Orlando came from a man ashamed or maybe even a jilted lover, does that really matter how we feel about Muslims? Not really, but I still prefer the truth.
It is actually quite easy to link them:
1. Shooter was a Muzzie
2. Shooter was gay
3. Shooter knew Allah us not happy with his sexual choices
4. Shooter knew that if he was killed committing jihad during Ramadan he would get 72 virgins
“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie.”
Your forgetting one thing, that all these terror acts have Islam as the common denominator. Simply put...you’re over thinking it!
How does one stumble across these terms....
Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been saying it all day today but freepers keep buying into this separation between gays and muslims. Maybe there is a separation from gays in muslimland - but not from homosexuality.
And while living in a oceanfront condo for ten years, surrounded by gay men and women, I will say while they could be genuinely annoying and pc (especially the women!) I never feared coming upon them in a dark alley or a bar.
If you do 'due diligence" on researching - you might put together that he wasn't gay - it was men kissing in pubic in front of his kids that set him off.. It's reported that he HAD indeed been to the club previously - but they surmise he was casing it - that way, he wouldn't be going in blind....but know just where and how he was going to pull it off...
I think that is a very savvy conflation of the issues in this case. There is a profound, yet rarely acknowledged, dependency of homosexuality at an early age, with the Islamic culture. Perhaps the pederasty is even more destructive than the homosexuality. In the west, such sexual violations of children have repeatedly shown to create adult rage and even psychosis. Combined with Muslim teachings of murdering others and enslaving women, as well as the brutality of Sharia law, it's like Islam was created to literally embody all the possible evil of humanity in one organization. Muslims are human beings who have been soul-broken by Islam - which in turn was created and designed to break souls, like a machine.
It seems from the first few responses here that people think I'm pro Muslim or something. Not true.
Great post. For anyone needing a break from news without taking their mind “off point” YouTube has a decent copy of El Cid with Charleton Heston.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuvHew1zi4
I know it’s just an entertainment, but I definitely had a moment when the Mujahidin from the Barbary Coast tells the “moderate muslim” Spanish Moors to rise in jihad against their co-existing Christian neighbors, so they can establish a beachhead against all Europe. Great monologue echoing all the talking points in the news today. If ever Western Civilization was so blind, it’s to our responsibility being in a 1400 year old war without acknowledging it, let alone winning it. No substitute for victory.
“murdering homo freak”
How about a murdering homo freak who worked for Homeland Security for a decade before starting his rampage?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3440029/posts
There is more than one thing the press prefers to obfuscate.
What ever drove the idiot to kill all of those people is still overridden by the fact he had Muslim ties.
Are you a troll? We are already at war with Islam. Where have you been? We’re you at that confab with Romney?
I’m afraid to look. How about a synopsis?
“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie.”
You must not have noticed — we are already at war. The collateral evil that lurks within the minds of their foot soldiers as they commit acts of terror is beside the point.
>>it’s like Islam was created to literally embody all the possible evil of humanity in one organization. Muslims are human beings who have been soul-broken by Islam - which in turn was created and designed to break souls, like a machine.
Exactly. Every piece of islam is something that can be used to chip away whatever humanity a person has. In the end, you are left with these husks of a person that are dead inside, bowing to a false god according to a schedule and reciting the same words again and again.
They are a part of the tribulation and we do not get whisked away in a pre-Trib rapture. We have to endure this and resist them and the mark they place on your soul if you submit to alluh.
They can give blood if they've been celibate for a year. Now it seems like there's more agitation about that restriction than there was against the earlier blanket restriction.
Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual.
Clearly, Mateen had problems with gays, but so far we just have one guy's word for it that the killer was a regular at the club.
In fact, Islamic scholars have difficulty explaining the Qu’ran’s prohibition against homosexuality when it’s obvious that there are a lot of closeted gays and open pedophiles in Islamic cultures. This is especially true of the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.
Everybody keeps saying he clearly had a problem with gays but I’m not so sure about that. I think if he would have been at ANY CLUB as a regular patron, he would have shot it up, instead. He just found himself an easy, gun free target.
Those areas thousands of miles away from Arabia didn't become Muslim until after Muhammad died, so why would customs there have much to do with the Koran?
>>In fact, Islamic scholars have difficulty explaining the Qu’ran’s prohibition against homosexuality when it’s obvious that there are a lot of closeted gays and open pedophiles in Islamic cultures. This is especially true of the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.
They explain it in code.
1) They believe that alluh does not expect them to not sin, stop sinning, or to even try to stop sinning. Alluh is a being that demands works and if your good works balance out the bad, then he accepts you. So, closet homosexuality, bestiality, murder, whatever is OK as long as your works for alluh are greater.
2) The murder of openly gay people is demanded because they flaunt it as if it is the reason why alluh made them (i.e. gays say, “I was made this way and can’t help myself” and they talk about their “pride” in that a lot). They blaspheme alluh with their public depravity because it can lead others into the same depravity, which tips the balance away from their works. They kill them to stop them from committing more bad works. Its supposed to be a mercy killing.
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