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EgyptAir Flight 804 from Paris to Cairo missing
CNN ^ | May 18, 2016

Posted on 05/18/2016 8:13:50 PM PDT by rdl6989

An EgyptAir flight heading from Paris to Cairo has disappeared from radar, the airline tweeted.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Egypt; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airline; alexandria; cairo; crete; egypt; egyptair; egyptair804; europeanunion; flight804; france; greece; jihad; missing; missingplane; ms804; msr804; nato; paris; planeexplodes; waronterror
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To: wrench

No, but there’s always the first time - and we all know about the French and their unwarranted cultural superiority syndrome, especially with regards to engineering.

On the other hand, there’s always the chance the tail fell off, which *is* something that’s happened to Airbus planes in the past.


301 posted on 05/19/2016 4:47:42 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: wrench

I read another article that referenced control issues on the Airbus planes. I’m not familiar with such stuff.


302 posted on 05/19/2016 4:49:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Spktyr

Hmmmm, wasn’t there something that happened in the air a year or so ago in Egypt airspace that caused an airliner to disappear from radar, and crash ?

If you hear hoof-beats, don’t assume it is zebras.


303 posted on 05/19/2016 4:52:15 AM PDT by wrench
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To: elpadre

The “tight ship” sank some time ago.


304 posted on 05/19/2016 4:53:18 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Texas Fossil

Air Transat 961 and possibly American Airlines 587, among other (fortunately less serious) incidents. More reading here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_961

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2005/mar/13/theairlineindustry.internationalnews

As for how lethal an uncommanded thrust reverser deployment can be: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauda_Air_Flight_004

There was a Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode about the Lauda Air 004 incident. http://youtu.be/eqmD2a5iiE4

Sent the plane into a spin and ripped it apart in 12 seconds.


305 posted on 05/19/2016 4:58:23 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Egyptian airliner explodes mid-air, crashes into Mediterranean

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212498

(this was just posted on FR)

306 posted on 05/19/2016 4:59:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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307 posted on 05/19/2016 5:02:06 AM PDT by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. What's that tell ya?!?)
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To: Spktyr

Egyptian airliner explodes mid-air, crashes into Mediterranean

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212498


308 posted on 05/19/2016 5:02:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: TTFlyer

Yeah, this has to have happened because Trump is a racist and so are all the people voting for him...even if this happened because of weather.


309 posted on 05/19/2016 5:02:27 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: wrench

Yup, but that flight was over land in an area that is known to contain AA batteries of types that *can* bring down such aircraft. It seemed to have been a bomb anyway, though - or such seems to be the multiply official conclusion.

This flight was 170 miles out to sea over the Med, at 37,000 feet. It was nowhere near land and nowhere near where any ground AA could have done anything to or about it. If it wasn’t a bomb/terrorism or mechanical failure, it would have required a major surface combatant (I.e., warship) to track, lock on and launch a missile the size of a telephone pole to bring the airliner down. Last I checked, the terrorists don’t yet have any of those.


310 posted on 05/19/2016 5:04:31 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rdl6989
Did you notice from FlightAware?

Duration: 4 hours 0 minutes

Exactly 4 hours? Merde.

311 posted on 05/19/2016 5:14:25 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Too bad your overhauled unicorn start-up failed, Ted.")
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To: Blue Jays

It can be a very good way to spread news quickly & widely.


312 posted on 05/19/2016 5:30:15 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Yaelle

Some on Twitter saying there may have been a VIP or a dignitary on board.

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Anybody see Bernie Sanders yet today?


313 posted on 05/19/2016 5:32:34 AM PDT by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: Spktyr

My guess is another altimeter bomb. This one set for re-entry into a pressure zone.

Or in other words ISIS improving upon their design.


314 posted on 05/19/2016 5:43:16 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: acw011

There were 3 Air Marshalls on board. That seems like a lot.


315 posted on 05/19/2016 5:45:20 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: rdl6989

CNN

Egypt: More likely terror than technical issue brought down plane.

Greece: Plane made several swerves before crash.

CNN analyst (female): More likely terrorism or something from in the plane than she thought last evening.

No claim of responsibility by any terror organization — yet.

==

Speculation, Inc., in full operation on the newsies. [/s]


316 posted on 05/19/2016 5:55:10 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rdl6989

CNN

Obama has been informed of this incident.

{Whew! Glad to know. Did they have to wake him or was he watching CNN? [/s]}


317 posted on 05/19/2016 6:11:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

RT LexPress “ LIVE #EgyptAir . Debris located off of Crete ( Greek authorities )


318 posted on 05/19/2016 6:17:16 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: LukeL

Airspace and destination not the same


319 posted on 05/19/2016 6:18:04 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Spktyr

None of your examples are the same type as this recent crash.

Different designs or manufacturers, no shared components. The only similarity is they were jet aircraft.

Pattern failure analysis is only legitimate for the same type and manufacture of equipment.


320 posted on 05/19/2016 6:37:49 AM PDT by wrench
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