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Analysis: Some conservatives are still plotting to stop Donald Trump at the GOP convention
Tampa Bay Times ^ | May 17, 2016 | Ed O'Keefe & David Wiegal

Posted on 05/18/2016 5:48:04 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Edited on 05/18/2016 5:54:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The top ranks of the Republican Party may be coalescing around Donald Trump, but grass-roots conservative activists are still trying to find a way to stop him at the party's convention in July.

Angered by Trump's shifting views on taxes, the minimum wage, national security and how little he discusses social issues, conservatives across the country are studying the party rule book for last-ditch moves they could make when the convention begins in Cleveland.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016rncconvention; 2026rncconvention; amnesty; conventionrnc; cruz; gopconvention; neocons; nevertrump; notconservatives; openborders; roguedelegates; rulescommittee; stopthesteal; trumo; trump
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To: Roos_Girl; BlackbirdSST

Your words: “You don’t know who they are, so to say the committee is stacked with Cruz supporters is a lie.”

Wrong: I DO know exactly who they are & the committee (thus far) is heavily stacked! And I posted the names of 16 rules-committeemen intentionally to the 1st comment on the thread. And I know that you read that post since you commented on the total delegate number.

That list is dominated by Cruz people. At least two are vehemently opposed to Trump and have already been on the public record with attacks spewing ant-Trump venom. These clowns probably used to post on FR. And they are still on an nevertrump warpath as quoted in the article.

But now with more delegates, there had better not be more nevertrumper cruzbots adding to the list; we will continue to monitor.

Whatever evil deceitful plot they have cooked up in their CCC cauldron will not overrule the voice of the people. Truth and liberty is on our side. Their clandestine pre-convention meetings will likely get them kicked off the committee and they will be de-delegated. These die-hard losers are conspiring with globalist sell-outs who are out to protect their own self-interest. And they are conspiring against a giant in Donald Trump.

By the time this primary is over, Donald Trump (11.2 million votes today ) will have long passed GWB record setting 12 million primary votes. Trump will have a few extra hundred delegates in hand. Trump will be clubbing Hillary like a baby seal and she will be so sorry she didn’t help Ted enough so she could drum him in the GE.


101 posted on 05/19/2016 7:49:44 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: ZULU; vette6387; flat; sheik yerbouty; HarleyLady27; Liz; Lumper20; MinuteGal; Foolsgold; Doogle; ..

Destructive lunatics who care more about themselves than their country = traitors, IMO.


102 posted on 05/19/2016 8:15:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Are you dense? There will be 112 people on the rules committee. You know a total of 16 of them (15%) and about half of those (8%) appear to have been/are Cruz supporters, though you have absolutely no proof of anything more than that. You are having a hissyfit over 8% (currently) of the rules committee being Cruz supporters. Guess what? There are going to be Cruz supporters at the RNC.

“I DO know exactly who they are & the committee (thus far) is heavily stacked!”

Name all 112 RNC rules committee members and the 57 who are NeverTrumps. You can’t because you do NOT know who they are. Why don’t you know who they are? Because they have not all been chosen yet. And the idiots here who cannot bother to actually read the whole story nor bother to try to understand for themselves get sucked in to your lies and half truths.

Go ahead, name all 112 committee members and name all 57 (minimum) that are NeverTrump.


103 posted on 05/19/2016 8:25:03 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

I listed what was posted to comment #1 and said,
“If there are other delegates on this committee, clue me in. These are the only ones listed.” At the time, I was unsure why they’re were not more. I was asking for information.

Lady, You have no idea whom your dealing with and who I know and don’t know. And you have no idea what access I have to find out, or how interested I may be in learning the facts. The names will be forthcoming and we will see exactly who they are.

If the ratio remains stacked with never-Trumpers, that will be a real shame and lead to greater animosity at a time when unity is the answer.

Have you emailed Ted Cruz yet, and asked him to honor his pledge to the republican party?


104 posted on 05/19/2016 8:40:50 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Themselves and their pockets. Absolutely.


105 posted on 05/19/2016 8:50:22 AM PDT by ZULU (DON'T GO OFF THE RESERVATION.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Lady, You have no idea whom your dealing with and who I know and don’t know. And you have no idea what access I have to find out, or how interested I may be in learning the facts. The names will be forthcoming and we will see exactly who they are.”

Am I supposed to be impressed?

By all means, when you find out who the full committe is post the names. But you knew, per the link that YOU included, that there will be 112 and that all 112 had not yet been chosen. So, you are either trying to make yourself seem more important than you are, stir up trouble or you are posting links without reading the information. My guess is all three. Put up or shut up until you have all the info.

You have no proof and no reason to believe that the final rules committee will be “stacked” with NeverTrump other than Politico story that several other articles rely on to stir up trouble. I agree, it will be an issue IF it works out the way you are guessing it will, but at this point there is no reason to believe it will.

Have I emailed Cruz yet? Cruz said he would support the nominee. Do we have a nominee? No, we won’t have one until June. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until then. As I have said before, if he doesn’t support Trump after the convention I will be disappointed that he has broken his word. Will I be surprised? No, he’s a politician. I won’t be a part of your handwringing about it.


106 posted on 05/19/2016 9:29:51 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Some “conservatives” are still brain dead.


107 posted on 05/19/2016 9:30:42 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: bigbob; Biggirl; Karl Spooner

I add this for the record. This is a report from the Texas about the Rules Committee from the 2012 RNC Convention. It’s a rapid process.

http://www.mcrp.org/documents/RulesCommitteeReportfromMelindaandButch_000.pdf


108 posted on 05/19/2016 9:35:31 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

PS - Anyone worth “dealing with” understands the differences between your and you’re and there, they’re and their. You may consider learning the differences if you want to be force you claim.


109 posted on 05/19/2016 9:52:51 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

In this case, the media isn’t stirring up trouble. They are reporting on the Machiavellian plots Cruz has underway. You are just embarrassed (rightfully so) that the Cruz Nevertrumpers have not stopped conspiring with Ted to win. You can read that the Politico article is full of “direct quotes” from the mouths of Cruz die-hards on the Rules Committee.

You said, to me: “Put up or shut up until you have all the info.”

Very rude girl- I don’t take directions from you and will continue to post the names of obstructionists Cruz delegates as they appear from across the county.

I have posted 16 names of RNC Rules Convention Committee Members.

You have posted ZERO names and continue to defend obstructionists.

There will be more obstructionists, like this one of YOURS from CO-Guy Short. He wants to reset the party power structure. Short plans to propose a “conscience clause.” The clause turns all the delegates into Super Delegates, just like the Democrats. It could open up the convention to multiple rounds of balloting, or they might all just stand up for TRUMP. Enough is enough.


110 posted on 05/19/2016 10:03:05 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

You’ve only posted 16 names! Why have you only posted 16 names?! Why aren’t you telling us all the other NeverTrumps on the rules committee? Are conspiring to hide this information from us? Do not accuse me of not doing something that you yourself have not done. Why have you not done it? Because there are no more names to post at this time.

This is the Politico story: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/ted-cruz-republican-national-convention-rules-223175

Here is a list of the quotes in the story:
“mushy middle”

Wow, yeah, I see what you mean, tons of admissions right from the NeverTrumps’ mouths that they are staging a coup. /s

I said a couple of times now to go ahead and post more names of people as they are selected for the rules committee; that’s what put up or shut up means.

The guy Curly that you keep going on and on about, the Politico story has said he’s been working “for years” to unbind the delegates, but your comments lead people who don’t bother reading the whole story to believe that this is something new because he is a Cruz supporter.

Liars lie, either outright or by ommission. You think I am rude for pointing out the truth? I’m okay with that. You like it when Trump speaks that way to people, but get offended when it is directed towards you.


111 posted on 05/19/2016 11:14:18 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Cruz said he would support the nominee. Do we have a nominee? No, we won’t have one until June.

That's YOUR position.

I don't think that's the position of the owner/operator of this website.

You might want to get your mind right, Roos.

112 posted on 05/19/2016 3:47:04 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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To: kiryandil

I don’t need you or anyone else to help me get my mind right. It’s not my position. Facts are facts, we do NOT have a republican nominee right now, we have a presumptive nominee. And as far as Cruz’s pledge to support the nominee, he has not, at this point, broken it.


113 posted on 05/19/2016 3:58:40 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl; mkjessup; nopardons; PJBankard; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I don’t need you or anyone else to help me get my mind right. It’s not my position. Facts are facts, we do NOT have a republican nominee right now, we have a presumptive nominee. And as far as Cruz’s pledge to support the nominee, he has not, at this point, broken it.

My, we're the Defiant One, aren't we?...

114 posted on 05/19/2016 4:07:31 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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To: Roos_Girl

I see the butthurt is still strong with you Grasshopper.


115 posted on 05/19/2016 4:12:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Roos_Girl
Facts are facts, we do NOT have a republican nominee right now, we have a presumptive nominee.

Free Republic's position is that we HAVE a nominee - not a "presumptive" nominee.

I notice that you contribute to Free Republic, so I'm going to lay off you.

Cruz had best quit playing games. It's unbecoming.

116 posted on 05/19/2016 4:13:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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To: kiryandil
You can't reason a religious fanatic (which is what followers of any guy who believes himself to be Like Unto Moses genuinely are, ultimately) OUT of anything they never reasoned themselves INTO in the first place.

Either they'll (eventually) tire themselves out, mid-tantrum, and slump dejectedly back towards a sulky sort of sanity... or else they'll (inevitably) get themselves ZOTted.

Enjoy the spectacle, either way. ;)

117 posted on 05/19/2016 4:17:29 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If you can't graciously honor JimRob's wishes, then kindly stay the hell out of JimRob's house.)
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To: Roos_Girl; mkjessup; nopardons; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; kiryandil
I don’t need you or anyone else to help me get my mind right. It’s not my position. Facts are facts, we do NOT have a republican nominee right now, we have a presumptive nominee. And as far as Cruz’s pledge to support the nominee, he has not, at this point, broken it.

Facts are facts, we do NOT see you as an intellectual person, we see someone who assumes to be intellectual. So until we get certification that you are intellectual person, we will assume you are not.
118 posted on 05/19/2016 4:24:51 PM PDT by PJBankard
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To: kiryandil

FR’s position has nothing to do with what we are talking about.


119 posted on 05/19/2016 4:47:38 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: kiryandil

I don’t worship at the Trump alter. Sorry, not sorry.


120 posted on 05/19/2016 4:49:30 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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