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Senate approves gun seizures in violent domestic breakups (Connecticut)
ctpost.com ^ | May 2, 2016 | Ken Dixon

Posted on 05/03/2016 12:38:51 PM PDT by lowbridge

Accused domestic abusers would have to surrender firearms within 24 hours under legislation that won final approval in the Senate on Monday afternoon and now heads to the governor for his expected signature.

The bill was approved 23-13 after a two-and-three-quarter hour debate, in which Republicans failed in three attempts to amend it. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, who proposed the legislation, indicated right after the vote that he supports the bill, which would require alleged domestic abusers — in most cases, men — to immediately give up their guns and ammunition if their partners seek restraining orders.

The goal is to protect women from the increased lethality at a critical point in a relationship: when they are trying to leave their abusers. About 14 domestic homicides occur annually in Connecticut, half of which are caused by guns.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; connecticut; election2016; guncontrol; guns; newyork; secondamendment; trump
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To: StCloudMoose

“is domestic abuse a federal crime? therefore they are required to surrender their guns and ban from buying a gun”

Due process here would be probable cause, arrest, arraignment, trial, conviction, THEN you can talk about confiscating private property.


21 posted on 05/03/2016 12:54:43 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: lowbridge

1 more reason to GTF out of the NE

Geesh the list is getting long


22 posted on 05/03/2016 12:56:39 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: lowbridge
Unconstitutional, an accusation is not the same as a conviction.

Insufficient due process...

Vote Trump

23 posted on 05/03/2016 12:59:26 PM PDT by sargon (Vote Trump!)
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To: lowbridge

This has been going on in Marxachusetts for donkey’s years.

A nasty and/or vindictive wife can tell police, “He threatened me...” and the police search for and confiscate all weapons.

More to the point, the guns have to be stored somewhere, and if police don’t store them in their limited, small town headquarters buildings, then someone ele has to do it - at some cost.

If the husband can’t pay the cost, the guns are forfeit and sold. Say goodb-bye to your firearms, all because your wife felt like getting her jones by punishing you and getting a little payback for slights real or imagined with confiscation of your treasured possessions.

And all of it’s anti-constitutional nonsense on the part of anti-gunners, because they don’t take away knives, hammers, household chemicals or anything else such as that.


24 posted on 05/03/2016 1:00:12 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: StCloudMoose
Hispanics are really crazed when it comes to passion.
They historically resort to fire when they wish to kill someone.

Happy Land Social Club Fire was caused by a jilted boyfriend who killed 87 people in his rage.
It occurred in March 1990 and killer is eligible for parole in November 2016. No gun was involved.
25 posted on 05/03/2016 1:02:15 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: lowbridge

Without registration, who is going to collect?


26 posted on 05/03/2016 1:05:57 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: DBrow

That is exactly what this amounts to


27 posted on 05/03/2016 1:07:13 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: Lion Den Dan

All a person has to say is their deranged boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife arrived to their place waving a gun before screaming:
"...He / She said they were also going to kill themselves at their home if we were not together..."

It essentially gives police a green light to "toss" a house for the general safety of the population, even though everything is fabricated and would be very hard to disprove.
If one looks hard enough in most American households, a firearm will eventually be found.

28 posted on 05/03/2016 1:13:31 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: lowbridge

So a mere allegation suspends your rights?

No Due Process? No presumption of innocence?


29 posted on 05/03/2016 1:19:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All Hail!)
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To: The Working Man

I think you’re right.


30 posted on 05/03/2016 1:20:47 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: sargon

Hell, a CO of P right now gets your guns confiscated. All you need is a neighbor wanting to bust your balls and filing one on you. The filer doesn’t even need to go to court over it.

Police come to your house and its all over for your guns.

Guilty until proven innocent.


31 posted on 05/03/2016 1:32:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: The Working Man

It is a decisive blow against marriage and BOTH genders.
If someone has a lover they want gone, but they ain't got the guts.
Now they just pick up the phone and let police do their dirty deeds.

32 posted on 05/03/2016 1:38:54 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: MeganC

What kind of idiot thinks that guns “CAUSE” murder???


33 posted on 05/03/2016 1:50:16 PM PDT by T Wayne (If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
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To: T Wayne

The same people must think cars cause drunk driving.


34 posted on 05/03/2016 1:51:43 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Blue Jays

That,s how they like it.


35 posted on 05/03/2016 1:52:59 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: lowbridge

The goal is to punish gun owners for owning guns whether they have done anything wrong or not.


36 posted on 05/03/2016 2:02:25 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: lowbridge

The goal is to take guns from non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


37 posted on 05/03/2016 2:44:35 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: lowbridge
...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law...

That's two out of three they are taking. Not that silly documents like the Constitution matter to them.

38 posted on 05/03/2016 3:22:04 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: lowbridge

while on the surface, this might seem like the right thing to do- it is now the courts and police who get to determine what ‘violent’ means- A man slaps his wife? Violent, a woman slaps a man? violent- a man shoves a woman? ‘violent’ a woman is on anti-depressents? ‘potential for violent behavior’ Someone calls is a ‘potential domestic abuse’ situation? ‘Violent incident’


39 posted on 05/03/2016 3:36:34 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: lowbridge

With a 24 hour window, I would pile everything in the car and drive to an adjacent state (NOT Massachusetts!), where I would rent a storage unit.

At that point, the marriage is over. A threat to my weapons is completely unforgivable. Divorce is inevitable after a blow that low, and there can be no negotiation or forgiveness after crossing that line.


40 posted on 05/03/2016 4:01:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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