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IRS chief: Agency encourages illegal immigrant theft of SSNs to file tax returns
Washington Examiner ^ | April 12,2016 | By RUDY TAKALA

Posted on 04/12/2016 2:26:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The IRS is struggling to ensure that illegal immigrants are able to illegally use Social Security numbers for legitimate purposes, the agency's head told senators on Tuesday, without allowing the numbers to be used for "bad" reasons.

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen made the statement in response to a question from Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., during a session of the Senate Finance Committee about why the IRS appears to be collaborating with taxpayers who file tax returns using fraudulent information. Coats said that his staff had discovered the practice after looking into agency procedures.

"What we learned is that ... the IRS continues to process tax returns with false W-2 information and issue refunds as if they were routine tax returns, and say that's not really our job," Coats said. "We also learned the IRS ignores notifications from the Social Security Administration that a name does not match a Social Security number, and you use your own system to determine whether a number is valid."

Asked to explain those practices, Koskinen replied, "What happens in these situations is someone is using a Social Security number to get a job, but they're filing their tax return with their [taxpayer identification number]." What that means, he said, is that "they are undocumented aliens … . They're paying taxes. It's in everybody's interest to have them pay the taxes they owe."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Indiana; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aliens; buildthewall; dancoats; deportillegals; election2016; indiana; irs; johnkoskinen; newyork; socialsecurity; ssn; trump
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1 posted on 04/12/2016 2:26:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

These people make me sick.


2 posted on 04/12/2016 2:28:16 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Hojczyk

IOW, they don’t care as long as they get the dough...........................


3 posted on 04/12/2016 2:28:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Left doesn't like him and the Right doesn't like him, so he must be the right guy for the job...)
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To: Hojczyk

They need the money.


4 posted on 04/12/2016 2:31:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Hojczyk

Just another DOG AND PONY SHOW!

QUIT LYING, You Have ALL the Necessary Tools and Authority to get to the Bottom of ANYTHING you so Desire.

These SENATORS and CONGRESSMEN have the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to get All the Answers they wish and they can act on those answers as they wish. Instead they JUST WHINE AND BITCH, while DOING NOTHING!:

Congress has ALL the power in washington, the executive and judicial branch operate according to the whims of CONGRESS!

Congress can Remove the President
Congress can remove the head of every executive agency Congress can remove ALL of their employees
Congress can Abolish every agency they so choose
Congress can remove EVERY JUDGE IN AMERICA, including every supreme court justice.
Congress can abolish every federal court except the supreme Court
Congress can decide which cases the Judicial Branch can hear and decide
CONGRESS can Imprison ANYONE they want for any reason they so desire for as long as they wish.
Congress can declare WAR

No other governing body has even 10% of the power CONGRESS has!!

CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/


5 posted on 04/12/2016 2:31:59 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Red Badger

And the Uniparty spends it as soon as it reached D.C.

We need more federal prisons.


6 posted on 04/12/2016 2:33:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: eyeamok
CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!

Which is why 95% of them need to be eliminated. By any means necessary.

7 posted on 04/12/2016 2:34:08 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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Why not? 0dunga has been doing it for YEARS.

FRAUD Koskinen should be shackled and thrown in the graybar hotel right next to Hillary, Huma, Mills, Jarrett, Rice, blah blah blah..

8 posted on 04/12/2016 2:35:43 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (u)
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To: Hojczyk
I'm sure the GOPe is hard at work on another strongly-worded letter.
9 posted on 04/12/2016 2:37:05 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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To: Hojczyk

Can’t we just get Lois back to get to the bottom of this? She’s still on the payroll right?


10 posted on 04/12/2016 2:37:44 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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” They’re paying taxes. It’s in everybody’s interest to have them pay the taxes they owe.”

B.S. Very few, if any, illegal aliens have any federal or state income tax withheld. They file the tax returns, with zero FIT tax withheld, and collect big refundable child tax credits and earned income tax credits. Filing a tax return and paying taxes are two different things.


11 posted on 04/12/2016 2:38:29 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: muggs

ping


12 posted on 04/12/2016 2:41:42 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Hojczyk

“......and say that’s not really our job”

Going after identity theft by illegal aliens? Nah, “that’s not really our job”. Why waste time going after people who invade our country and then steal people’s identities when the new mission is to use those thousands of newly hired and armed IRS agents to go after US citizens who haven’t paid their Obamacare “protection money”.


13 posted on 04/12/2016 2:42:47 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: forgotten man

Billions of dollars worth of checks get mailed out to illegal aliens every year.


14 posted on 04/12/2016 2:43:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: eyeamok

Was it Rush who said “this isn’t immigration. It an invasion”. I agree.


15 posted on 04/12/2016 2:45:07 PM PDT by LookingUp
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To: Hojczyk

bump


16 posted on 04/12/2016 2:46:35 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Hojczyk

I worked for the IRS from January of 1971 to November 1984. One of the first things I noticed when processing duplicate (amended) tax returns was the frequent use of Person A’s social security number by Person B to file a fraudulent tax return and get a fraudulent refund. It was very easy to determine which one was the phony taxpayer. I asked my supervisor if we could/should go after the faker, and she said “...No, that’s not our job...”. This was over 40 years ago! Somethings never change.

Years later, in my own tax practice I helped a neighbor’s sister get out from under a heavy tax assessment caused by two illegal aliens using her social security number in two other states. Of course those illegals didn’t file tax returns, so the IRS sticks my client with the tax bill claiming “...you didn’t report this W-2 income on your tax return...”. Of course she didn’t, it wasn’t her income! BTW, the illegals made more income than my client and paid ZERO taxes. I asked the IRS employee I dealt with if they could go after the two imposters and she said “..oh, we don’t know where they are...”. WTH! I said you have their W-2’s with their addresses on them and you know who their employer is, why don’t you just go pick ‘em up? “That’s not our job.” Any wonder why I quit such a lame outfit?


17 posted on 04/12/2016 2:49:36 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: forgotten man
” They’re paying taxes. It’s in everybody’s interest to have them pay the taxes they owe.”

B.S. Very few, if any, illegal aliens have any federal or state income tax withheld. They file the tax returns, with zero FIT tax withheld, and collect big refundable child tax credits and earned income tax credits. Filing a tax return and paying taxes are two different things.

This is so true, see my post #17. I know first hand they aren't paying income taxes. The fraudulent EIC they get far exceeds the paltry FICA taxes withheld from their phony wages. Not to mention the welfare benefits they suck out of us. Then there is the cash under the table they make and refuse to report on the bogus tax returns they do file.

18 posted on 04/12/2016 2:54:26 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Hojczyk

Fantastic. A federal agency is using federal dollars to violate federal law. There is nothing that isn’t covered in the feces that spews out of Obama.


19 posted on 04/12/2016 2:55:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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AND BY THE WAY! The illegals aren’t hiding in the shadows. They are openly flaunting the laws. We know where to mail their check but we can’t find them and deport them? To hell with the whole Obamanation.


20 posted on 04/12/2016 2:56:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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