Posted on 04/11/2016 6:27:26 AM PDT by FR_addict
This Saturday was the district conventions for many of the NC districts. The keynote speaker was Dr. Ada Fisher, a very impressive speaker and I recommend her short book “I am a Republican” which gives the history of NC African American Republicans. She also said it was her opinion that candidates for President should be born in America.
I wasn’t sure how the process worked, but submitted myself as a delegate candidate. I wasn’t sure if anyone would second my nomination. All the GOP delegates in my county were Cruz supporters.
Someone outside my district seconded me. Each of us gave a short speech as to why we should be a delegate and who we supported.
Here are my tallies. I think he said we had 118 district delegates. Of those, 24 were submitted as district delegates to represent NC districts at the GOP convention.
6 would be chosen from the 24 to represent the district.
We were each given two minutes to speak and we were to state who we supported. I counted 8 Trump supporters from the group. 3 Kasich, 2 Rubios. The rest Cruz supporters.
The 118 delegates present could vote for 6 out of the 24.
When the votes were tallied, all the delegates selected were Cruz supporters.
Of the 6 selected, the delegate in first place had 51 votes, I think they said the last selected delegate of the six chosen had 30.
Assuming that Cruz supporters voted for Cruz, and Trump supporters voted for Trump supporters, there were probably less than 30 Trump supporters at the District convention out of the 118 attending. This is a reasonable assertion, because some of the people, who voted for me, showed me their ballots and they were almost identical to mine. Also, we had fewer Trump supporters on the list of delegates.
Also even before the delegate names were put into nomination, I noticed the guy next to me had a list of the people he planned to vote for. So the Cruz people were organized before the convention as to who would be supporting Cruz on the ballot.
The Trump campaign needs to help Trump supporters organize for the state and national convention. This is a big expense for most of us and help to find rooms with good rates and close to the convention sites would be extremely helpful. A list of Trump supporters for the coming state convention would also be handy.
Some of the Cruz people said they planned to vote for Cruz only. That’s the difference between Cruz and Trump people. I couldn’t vote for Cruz, but then if Cruz had won the state, I wouldn’t sign up to be a delegate to take someone else’s place, who could vote for either Cruz or Trump. I wouldn’t be stacking the deck. If for no other reason, it is expensive to be a delegate and I wanted to do it for my candidate, but not for someone I don’t support.
The attitude of some of the Cruz supporters is to steal the election from the people, who stood in lines for hours to vote. I was an election official this year and saw the turn out for myself. I reported to the polls before 6am and didn't leave until almost 11pm. The state also had a huge turn-out for early voting. The people wanted to vote for their candidate and not have their votes nullified by the party elites.
if the sure thing is an intemperate 2 yo with changing positions, I don’t consider that a bargain. I bought no lotto ticket, I knew we were screwed long ago.
It's as simple as that.
Well that's your opinion.
It appears to me that Cruz and his supporters are working hard to get as many Cruz loyalist delegates to the convention.
If only Trump and his supporters were doing the same, then we could be guaranteed that the GOP machine, at the convention, would be powerless.
I know you are obsessed with the GOPe, but it is the run of the mill voters who judge Trump unfavorably. It’s fantasy to think that if the party wrapped themselves around him that people would view him more favorably. it’s the coulda woulda shoulda defense. GOPe has become some monolith and anyone who is anti trump is conveniently thrown into it, as part of the anti trump conspiracy, no matter how ludicrous a thought it is.
the term GOPe has lost any meaning because of it’s overuse as a catchall for anyone anti trump. fringe libertarians who are anti trump are now GOPe. LUDICROUS.
If only Trump and his supporters were doing the same, then we could be guaranteed that the GOP machine, at the convention, would be powerless.
I'm not saying they'll let Trump near the podium either.
Cruz wasn’t GOPe, even when he was anti-Trump - until he signed on the dotted line with the Bushies.
Which will prove to be his downfall. The GOP machine is playing Cruz like a cheap fiddle. His arrogance is only matched by his inside-the-beltway naivete, thinking he can take on these GOPe "advisors".
You're wrong about Colorado. All registered Republicans were eligible to vote for local delegates at 2995 different neighborhood elections.
Those local delegates then voted at county and state conventions for the final delegates.
I will probably vote for Trump in spite of it all with an industrial strength clothespin on my nose (I don't guarantee it the way things are going) but only because I despise and fear a competent Hildebeast regime more than I despise and fear a merely unprincipled but incompetent Trump Regime. Many conservatives will not.
The only thing at this point FORCING any of us to vote for a GOP candidate who was not our own choice is the specter of Her Royal Thighness stalking the land. Jeb Bush said he wanted to be nominated WITHOUT the base. How did THAT work out? Trump apparently wants to be nominated and elected on the strength of character assassination and gutter language and behavior and insults against those who oppose him. How do you think THAT will work out?
Trump (and our country) will be doomed by his own behavior and that of his supporters if he is nominated and he does not and they do not clean up their act.
Remember when Bob Dole challenged McConnell to his face in front of his colleagues as a liar? Neither do I but Cruz did that.
No damage has been done to Trump other than by his own anti-intellectual approach (as an Ivy League alumnus no less), his lazy refusal to even begin to learn the party rules or even to assist his own caucus goers and delegates by informing them of which delegates he wants elected, and his own foul mouth and rude behavior. Not everyone admires such qualities in a candidate. Some never will.
Why maximize their numbers by plodding on in the same old rut? Try some civility and some gentlemanly behavior. My parents were factory workers and they brought me up that way. So did The Donald's raise him whatever it looks like. So did your parents. It just might work.
Great point! I wanted Scott Walker who has been a magnificent governor of the state that is six miles to my north. When he dropped, I chose Cruz over Rubio but never had any reason whatsoever to consider Trump from the moment when he whined about blood coming out of Megyn Kelly’s wherever. I don’t have to be a fan of Megyn Kelly or agree with her questions and their implications to recognize Trump’s attack on her to be beyond the pale. Neither Cruz nor any other GOP POTUS contender other than Trump had anything to do with that.
Haley Barbour, Trent Lott, Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, and their ilk and the stupidity of “open primaries” allowing non-Republicans to vote in GOP primaries got Cockroach “re-nominated” which was tantamount to re-election. That’s who.
but i bet you anything you have endured a litany of abuse from the trump supporters for being a cruzbot or GOPe or supporting JEB etc. because any criticism of Trump means you are shilling for someone else and can’t stand the fact that trump is winning, in their book. i have far more respect for those that admit to trump’s rather egregious failings and nonetheless support him as the best we can do, than those who see him as the answer to all that ails us.
Actually, if the Trump campaign were better organized and better funded, it would secure more delegate slots — and sometimes even take delegates from Cruz. Such maneuvering within the rules is not stealing. Unfortunately, like a brilliant ad campaign for a company that fails to deliver product to purchasers, for lack of organization, Trump’s campaign has proven to be weak at converting his popularity into delegate strength.
GOP-E is Moral Monster Mitt Romney. I refused to vote for him. I should not have voted for McCain or Dole or Ford or probably Bush the Elder or Nixon in 1968, but I held nose and did. I was willing to give JEB a fair hearing. I did. He failed miserably in short order. I was even willing to consider Rand Paul although I despised his father who had toys in his attic. Rand did not make the cut although he is far better than his dad.
Their book is like George McGovern's book in 1972. Any fantasy in service to their secular messiah simply MUST be believed. If you saw the Brendan Frazer Mummy movie, remember the drugged out mob of zombies surging through the streets of Cairo chanting "Imhotep! Imhotep! Imhotep!" (the name of the mummy. Substitute "Trump! Trump! Trump! and we are living through the rough equivalent. I also live just south of Paul Ryan's district. If I were not confined to a wheelchair, I would go six miles north to help his primary opponent. I may volunteer to do that by telephone from my home. The Trump zombies would not know the GOP-E from a hole in the wall which is why they are supporting one.
In any event, than you for your posts here. God bless you and yours!
I don’t disagree with you. Trump seems to be making some late-in-the-game changes. Whether or not it’s past-time to pull him out of the tailspin, we’ll see.
God bless YOU! I’ve long admired your posts on the religion threads : )
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