Posted on 04/05/2016 7:36:02 AM PDT by xzins
While we disagree with Mr. Buchanan on which candidate is the best standard bearer for the conservative movement there is one thing we do agree on – passionately.
No matter who gets the Republican nomination, the establishment must lose.
In a recent column “Lock Out The Establishment In Cleveland!” Pat Buchanan echoed the conclusions of our four-part series on what conservatives should do if Trump wins the nomination:
As Buchanan explained, to accomplish that goal, “All Trump and Cruz need do is instruct their delegates to vote to retain Rule 40 from the 2012 convention. Rule 40 declares that no candidate can be placed in nomination who has failed to win a majority of the delegates in eight states.”
Trump has already hit that mark. Cruz almost surely will. But no establishment favorite has a chance of reaching it.
With Cruz and Trump delegates voting to retain Rule 40, they can guarantee no Beltway favorite walks out of Cleveland as the nominee — and that Ted Cruz or Donald Trump does.
As Pat Buchanan said, “No matter who wins in Cleveland, the establishment must lose.” We urge Trump and Cruz delegates across the country to do what their compatriots in Tennessee and a few other states have started to do; get together and form an informal alliance that commits them to voting for Cruz or Trump – and only Cruz or Trump.
Personally I sure would like to see both candidates come together, that would be the best outcome. If Cruz ran as VP, the issue of NBC has 4 years to be worked out. If successful, then he can run as President in 4 years and hopefully the conservative issues folks care about can be addressed, after the basic 3 issues trump needs to solve (stop de-industrialization, fix the border deport the illegals)are dealt with. Cruz as VP would hopefully solve the Supreme justice issue, not even Reagan managed to appoint good ones.
I think Cruz supporters would support Trump, and Trump supporters will support Cruz, if they bury the hatchet as above. The only way I see the hatchet being buried (other than in each others head) is if they can be a joint ticket, and if the current trajectory in votes continues that would mean Cruz as a VP. I very much doubt he is inclined to that.
Were the situation reversed, I believe Trump would also not accept a VP slot.
If Cruz goes in to the convention with fewer delegates, far fewer votes (3 to 3.5 million less) and somehow manages to get the nomination on a globalist plank, I see a large number of Trump voters sitting it out or writing in Trump as a protest vote come November. Also the large number of cross over working class folks have no incentive to vote Cruz with his current stances. Yes he is best on supreme court justices, but to people seeing the US economy being hollowed out to aid those at the top, well a pox on their houses.
If Cruz gets the nomination but adopted the Trump nationalist Plank, he might mitigate that somewhat. But that means he and Trump burying the hatchet and getting a real endorsement from Trump, which I doubt Trump is inclined to do. Trump has a real ego and I think Cruz has stepped on it.
In that case I still think the best course of action is to go with a dark horse candidate, a governor who runs on a nationalist US plank, one that can garner both Cruz and Trump fans. Both sets will be disappointed, but neither will have to eat each others sh-t (so to speak).
Cruz has zero likeability and zero cross over capability.
He should go be VP with Trump. It is his last attempt to win and anyone else but Trump as President will lose this.
Write this down and see how it goes down. There will be no Republican win without Trump in the lead, even if he graciously gets screwed at the convention and backs the Republican loser.
Cruz or the OTHER GOPe candidates will lose to Hillary.
I myself the way this is going might just hang it up until next year. We will have a lot of Hillary hell coming.
Because whether we like to admit it or not, Cruz and Trump are the most alike on the issues.
I’m not sure we do want that.
I don’t want Trump running under Romney’s rules. I want Trump to have some say in the rules.
Nor do I want him running under rules established by an agreement between him, Bush, Rubio, Huckabee, Santorum, etc. from PRIOR to when the primaries began.
I want him to enter the convention hall able to affect how things are going to operate during his campaign.
We? Not from my perspective. I will vote for Trump, not Cruz. Cruz will never get my vote. This is not complex.
I think folks are going to have to be realistic to avoid Hillary.
You may only want to vote for trump, but if you could get that with a non-Trump guy who was not associated with DC political machine would you take that (thus not Cruz)?
By the same token the Cruz fans that cannot stomach Trump, would you take a conservative governor who was not trump but had a Trump platform plus conservative judges?
Unless there is a unity candidate that is neither or a cruz-trump accommodation, the fall looks doomed. By the same token a GOPE candidate is doomed also, regardless of platform.
Some conservative folks here in PA are sounding pretty dire unless this election is a game changer in political alignments. I have heard folks say that regardless of who gets in, the social issues will not be fixed that they care about (gay marriage, abortion, feminist dominated world-view, etc). I have to say their comments on tracing back many issues to supreme court decisions that have changed the US for the worst have a ring of truth.
It reminds me of the split before the civil war, only the geographic divide is city vs. the rural. In any case Hillary as president does not bode well for political stability, I sure hope folks can come together to avoid that.
Yup, my bet is that he's compromised.
Sometimes we are our own favorite sinner ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66McxifTN8I&index=10&list=PL441FCFF9C28E4662
Not allowed by who Jane, the rulemakers?!? I know, it sucks!!
I wish people would stop calling them “the establishment”. They are Democrat operatives. There is nothing even remotely Republican about them. This so called “establishment” needs to get kicked the eff out of the party, send them to the treason party where they belong, let Paul Ryan suck Obama toes on their own turf.
The GOPe is grudgingly backing Cruz only because they’re certain Trump can’t win and he’ll damage the party in the process. *cough*-abortion-*cough*
TTTT!
I also was confused by the headline. I thought the article would say Trump has just now hired Pat as some sort of consultant. I was prepared to say,
It’s too late Pat, too late to board the Trump Train. Unfortunately, this campaign is deflating by the day, because Trump lacks self control and continues to bash people when he doesn’t need to.
They should make a new rule: 15 or 20 states.
Throw down the gauntlet to Cruz that he has win enough.
You cant unite a party if you lose 30 primaries.
Pat Buchanan cant legally work for Trump he has charity think tank thing.
401c or 501c
Remember this—Trump is a deal maker—he will be in his element in a brokered convention.
Once Trump is knocked out—they will target Cruz to ger Ryan (or some other moderate) in as the GOPe guy.
What we are failing to understand is the convention must pick somebody who has a chance to defeat either hillary or sanders. if they fail then it will be another democrat and the supreme court will become stacked with leftists for the next 30 years!
Can Cruz win against them? No.Sadly.
Can k-sick? Hell no.
Can Trump win against them? Possibly, as he is not a right wing tea party candidate and nowhere near as establishment and has drawn over some democrats that would vote for him.
Pat is a very articulate and intelligent man, pay attention when he speaks!!!
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