Posted on 03/31/2016 6:00:02 AM PDT by NRx
If Donald Trump secures the Republican presidential nomination, he would start the general election campaign as the least-popular candidate to represent either party in modern times.
Three-quarters of women view him unfavorably. So do nearly two-thirds of independents, 80 percent of young adults, 85 percent of Hispanics and nearly half of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.
Those findings, tallied from Washington Post-ABC News polling, fuel Trump’s overall 67 percent unfavorable rating — making Trump more disliked than any major-party nominee in the 32 years the survey has been tracking candidates.
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“Ted Cruz is more popular when you sample everyone, not just Republican primary voters. Even among Republican primary voters, not-Trump is far more popular than Trump, but split its vote.”
You must have mangled all sorts of mental machinery to feed that twisted, illogical, libthink through your brain.
Has it occurred to you that the Not Cruz vote is even bigger than the Not Trump vote?
Yeah, Kasich and Trump are the splitters, and are unfairly denying Ted the lead he so rightfully deserves.
Geeeez.....
Geez, so was Reagan.
Trump will have the same landslide, in the general, as Reagan, too. Folks aren’t that in to the other characters.
Ahah! FINALLY the reason for Trumps popularity and Primary success is uncovered!
Trump’s unpopularity is the reason for his popularity!
(excuse me folks....time for my meds)
LOL
Do some research because you are not alone.
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/donald-trump-soros-useful-idiot-agent-provocateur/
my gold foil hat has been spinning for months...bbbwwwhahahahha!
I ma so fed up of pointing out how Trump has more delegates, millions more votes, won 2 of the 3 important swing states which decide an election and cruz could nto win a county in two of them.
cruz had not took an eighth of the attacks from the media and the establishment, but you can bet he will if he is successful of taking delegates away form Trump to have their contested election.
These are facts and yet I state it to a cruz supporter only for them to repeat the establishments lies about cruz is better on another thread.
voting for cruz now is voting for the establishment which all of us were against , including may on here still supporting cruz, but I guess being with the establishment is better than being against for them due to their hatred of Trump beating their guy.
I remember the same sort of Crap from the WashPo against Reagan....
We started out, planning to vote for Cruz.
We liked Cruz first, Trump second, and pretty much all the others, 10th or 11th.
Either Cruz or Trump would be vastly better than a corrupt, fascist crook like Clinton or a honest(?) even more extreme leftist like Saunders.
In the general election, if Cruz is the nominee, we will vote for him.
In the Primary, we will vote Trump.
The problem we see Cruz having in the general election is that he will not get many cross over votes.
Trump will.
Who knows, maybe even get some FSArmy votes?
If Kasich? Probably will stay home.
Kasich’s leftist positions on stuff like open borders will only swell the ranks of the FSArmy to the point the Repub Party will never win another election.
Look at California here....aka Mexifornia....the FSArmy decides the elections (plus the illegals, the dead, etc)
Who are you voting for in the U.S. Senate in Illinois? I’m going with the Libertarian..................again.
I cannot vote for Kirk and voting for a rat is out of the question.
Comparing Donald Trump with Ronald Reagan comes very close to blasphemy. And Reagan’s unfavorable ratings were no where near Trump’s.
Trump is going to be waiting for his 1980-Regan-like comeback right up until his concession speech.
For two reasons:
The landscape is completely different. Reagan would barely win today, because there are many fewer white voters than in 1980.
Reagan was a far more skilled candidate. Trump isn’t fit to tie Reagan’s shoes in terms of issue knowledge, rhetorical skill, philosophical grounding, and most of all personal charm.
The difference between Putin and Obama is that:
- Putin works to strengthen Russia
whereas:
- Obama works to strengthen Russia
Hillary, on the other hand, is a shake down artist...”you got to pay to play” and will do whatever, for whoever, foreign or domestic, who pays the most.
She makes the Mafia look like Mother Teresa, by comparison.
And her popularity gives me insight into the how the Jews came to choose Barabas over Jesus.
The Post leans LEFT at all times.
I wonder how much Rove pays ETL ?
My guess? 500 per week.
If ETL read all of Trump’s books, 1,000 per week : )
“It’s time people woke up and smelled the coffee. If we don’t pick someone other than Trump or Cruz at the convention we are going to get buried in November.”
But, if we nominate an open borders corpratist the GOP is certainly done for. We need a border hawk. I would not write off Cruz or Trump completely but it would be an uphill climb for both of them. We need to elect border haw kor it is all over.
I agree, the border is a non-negotiable issue. I will add abortion and 2nd amendment to that list. As long as those boxes are checked I am willing to at least look at other potential candidates.
Post the same list of those who don’t want Trump.
Ted Cruz is more popular when you sample everyone, not just Republican primary voters. Even among Republican primary voters, not-Trump is far more popular than Trump, but split its vote.
Wait, what? Now that one takes the cake! Cruz is more popular which must mean he has a wider base and gets those (D) and (I) voters. What are you smoking son! Seriously, haven't you heard that 'Trump wins the open ones and Cruz wins the closed ones'? It was your very own guy Saint Ted who said that while trying to rationalize all his losses. He admitted right then and there that he CANNOT win the general and y'all refused to listen. Your facts are wrong too. Non-Cruz is higher than Non-Trump! See below.
The willingness of FReepers to ignore polls is very odd. Absent a few outliers, polls are very accurate. They are telling us as scientifically as possible that Trump would lose in a landslide to Hillary if the vote were today. That doesn’t mean that result is guaranteed for November, but it means that it will be the result absent a recipe for Trump to become more popular among people who right now seem to have a very dim view of him.
Here's the thing, no comment about winning the general can be taken seriously unless that person is talking about the purple states. Sorry, but that includes you. Twelve individual contests are held in these swing states on election day. Assuming "Red/Blue" holds the same as the past two cycles, then simply put, nothing else matters at all. If you cannot pull a specific quantity of electoral votes out of those states, then it is all over. Done. Since you failed to mention those states at all I'll assume you have no clue about them. See here for the bad news.
If you want the short version, Cruz cannot win the general because he cannot even beat Trump in the swing states, 7 of 12 primaries are already completed. If he cannot beat the so-called (D)emocrat Trump in the primaries with only (R) and (C) voters, then he is dead meat in the general against (D)emocrat Hillary when the doors get opened to (D) and (L) voters also. Refute that Cruzers ( not you specifically, any Cruzer ). Here is the question, who is left to vote for Cruz who already has not? Do you think Trump voters would vote for him if he steals the nomination? No way Jose. Not after what Cruz has pulled. The KKK bullsh!t. That was GOPe worthy smearing.
Now about these 'Polls'. You cannot blanket apply the word "scientifically". One must remember there is a gradient here, polls are not scientific without great expense and effort. On the highest end of objective measuring you have actual elections. Then you have election exit polls, a subset of those voters. Then a big gap and you get to scientific polls with large samples, neutral questions and adequate screening. Then even further down are push polls with small samples and little to no neutrality or scientific control. Then internet polls open to practically everyone. And finally, Cruzer style wishful thinking, group-think and circle-jerks ( sorry, but it's a new category now ).
You see only1percent, there is no real assurance that any "poll" except for Exit Polls are measuring legal, actual voters who vote. You are specifically falling for push polls which can very easily count non-voters and even illegal aliens and foreigners, not to mention kids too! They can also very easily oversample one particular party or candidate's followers. Finally, remember that the media outlets and polling firms have dubious integrity and honesty, corrupt enough to report only the results they were looking for. This should be glaringly obvious at this moment as we've seen the media in action this cycle. Hell, we've seen Cruz in action, is there anybody left that is honest now? Don't you believe that Cruz might use push polls now to fund-raise since he running out of cash?
I'm not gonna press you for the internals for whatever push polls you are hypnotized by, or to tell us the sample size. No, I'll just show you the results of the biggest poll taken so far. The most accurate. The most scientific. The most screened for eligible voters. The most sound. The only one that really counts in the end. The sample size for this poll is currently 21,089,383 actual voters!
Results of the Republican Party presidential primaries, 2016 Donald Trump ... 7,861,671 (37.11%) Primary=18 Caucus=3 Ted Cruz ....... 5,779,837 (27.28%) Primary= 3 Caucus=8 John Kasich .... 2,821,264 (13.32%) Primary= 1 Caucus=0 Marco Rubio .... 3,469,278 (16.38%) Primary= 1 Caucus=2 Ben Carson ....... 692,693 ( 3.27%) Jeb Bush ......... 254,515 ( 1.20%) Rand Paul ......... 56,451 ( 0.27%) Chris Christie .... 52,679 ( 0.25%) Mike Huckabee ..... 47,263 ( 0.22%) Carly Fiorina ..... 35,287 ( 0.17%) Rick Santorum ..... 15,774 ( 0.07%) Jim Gilmore ........ 2,671 ( 0.01%)
Here it is again inverted just for you since you incorrectly spoke of the non-Trump vote ...
non-Trump ...... 62.89% non-Cruz ....... 72.72% non-Kasich ..... 86.68% non-Rubio ...... 83.62% non-Carson ..... 96.73% non-Bush ....... 98.80% non-Paul ....... 99.73% non-Christie ... 99.75% non-Huckabee ... 99.78% non-Fiorina .... 99.83% non-Santorum ... 99.93% non-Gilmore .....99.99%
At this point in the 1980 Primaries, Reagan had won just 7 ( NH, VT, SC, AL, FL, GA, IL ) and lost 4 ( IA, PR, MA, CT ).
At this point in the 1980 Polls, Carter beat him in the polls in March by 60-31% and 58-33%, and then with Anderson added in, check this out, it was non-Reagan 68%, and never better than non-Reagan 63% until Aug-Sep. Trump is running ahead of Reagan, and always has been despite the media onslaught and more numerous amount of candidates. And despite running against a sneaky, Lyin' Ted Cruz and the GOPe smear machine.
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