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A NEW CONSTITUTION? States' rights groups eye convention to cut out feds
infoline.com ^ | 3/29/16 | Jonathan Serrie

Posted on 03/29/2016 3:09:01 PM PDT by cotton1706

ATLANTA – What if a supermajority of states could override a federal law or Supreme Court ruling?

That’s just one idea being proposed by advocates of a “convention of states” to amend the U.S. Constitution.

“The American people are mad and they’re looking for a way to say, ‘No more,’” said Brooke Rollins, president and CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative think tank. “Our founders, in their brilliance, gave us a tool to do that. And it’s Article V.”

Article V of the Constitution allows a minimum of two-thirds of the states to call for a convention to propose amendments, in turn going around Congress.

The push to do so has proceeded in fits and starts over the last several years, driven by a desire for states to debate a range of constitutional changes dealing with everything from campaign finance reform to balanced budgets. So far, six states have signed on — Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Florida, Indiana and Tennessee. Indiana was the latest to sign on, approving a resolution endorsing the effort earlier this month.

But organizers would need another 28 to bring their plan to fruition, and call the convention. If they reach that level of support, states would be entering uncharted territory.

“It has never happened before in the history of the United States,” said Robert Schapiro, dean of Emory University School of Law.

In an election cycle that has defied conventional wisdom, though, supporters of a convention of states believe right now may be the very best time to try something different.

“The mood of the public is tired of business as usual,” said Buzz Brockway, a Republican state representative who sponsored Georgia’s convention of states resolution.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conventionofstates; thewho; whosnext; wontgetfooledagain
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1 posted on 03/29/2016 3:09:01 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Jacquerie; Publius

Ping


2 posted on 03/29/2016 3:09:17 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
“Our founders, in their brilliance, gave us a tool to do that. And it’s Article V.”

Agreed. And they did so in a time when there was no uniparty...

3 posted on 03/29/2016 3:10:59 PM PDT by dware (Contested convention = final nail in the GOP coffin)
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To: 5thGenTexan; 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping!


4 posted on 03/29/2016 3:12:26 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: cotton1706

There are three branches in the Federal Government. The three real branches of government are Federal, the States and the People. This is a truth we lost years ago. The States or the People can nullify the Federal government as we will see in the years to come.


5 posted on 03/29/2016 3:14:06 PM PDT by strings6459
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To: cotton1706

Its a fine article that article V but like any serious medicine it must be taken very very carefully lest you kill the patient.


6 posted on 03/29/2016 3:14:09 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: cotton1706

The title is misleading. An Article V Convention/Convention of States can not propose a new constitution. It can only propose amendments to the Constitution, which would then be sent to the States for them to consider ratifying all, some, or none of the proposed amendments. The reference to a new constitution is either based in anti-convention bias or ignorance.


7 posted on 03/29/2016 3:15:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: cotton1706

An Article V convention does not create a “new constitution.”

It’s purpose is to propose amendments that then have to be ratified.


8 posted on 03/29/2016 3:15:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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To: cotton1706; Jacquerie; Publius

“The mood of the public is tired of business as usual,”
said Buzz Brockway, a Republican state representative
who sponsored Georgia’s convention of states resolution.
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Buzz is my State representative.
I have had many conversations with him.


9 posted on 03/29/2016 3:15:14 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Good on ya.

If only more freepers would take similar time with their state legislators.

10 posted on 03/29/2016 3:17:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: cotton1706

Those who think any good changes are likely to come out of an Article V need to watch what is going on with the Republican party and their top candidates right now.

Those are the same types who run the state parties — both Dem and GOP.

Those are the same types who will try to ensure their interests are weighed and considered.

Then, you have the Soros and lobbyists who will have their interests represented.

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Be careful what you wish for.

Note how the Article V bypasses the citizenry.

It is the state legislatures who select the attendees and who write the proposed changes. Then, it is the state legislatures that can vote on those proposed changes.

The political parties still control things because they control the state legislatures.


11 posted on 03/29/2016 3:22:59 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Repeal The 17th

IMO the 16th is just as bad as the 17th. They both need to go.


12 posted on 03/29/2016 3:25:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cotton1706
The societal right to amend the Constitution isn't a grant from government, anymore than the 2A is a personal grant from government to self-defense.

The enormity of an Article V state convention, whether congressionally sanctioned or not, cannot be overstated. It would be a gamechanging event.

In the weeks leading up, the nation will be consumed like never before in actual debate over the purpose of government and how far it has strayed from its designed purposes. A 21st century peaceful rising of the sovereign American people would be the equivalent of the 18th century “shot heard ‘round the world,” for it could mean the rebirth of the American tradition of free government.

Not seen since the ratification debates of 1787-1788, anticipation of a state amendments convention will engender national discussion over the foundational maxims of the American republic.

13 posted on 03/29/2016 3:26:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: cotton1706

DOA (Dead On Arrival) misrepresentation of the objectives, risks, and potential outcomes.


14 posted on 03/29/2016 3:26:40 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: cotton1706
An idea that has not been successfully used for since the adoption of the Constitution. Though the fed is not bypassed as Congress has to call the convention. Then what is supposed to happen after being called is what is unknown, since there were no guidelines set down as to how a CoS would proceed after being called by Congress.

Here is a good debate on the topic by Andy Schlfly and Dr. Michael Farris.(Audio Only)

Video Version

While these people claim to know how a Cos would be carried out I have my doubts since there are no guidelines set up in the Constitution other than Congress will call the convention to order.

15 posted on 03/29/2016 3:32:34 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: cotton1706
Article V of the Constitution allows a minimum of two-thirds of the states to call for a convention to propose amendments...

Minimum? That sounds more like a super-majority!

...in turn going around Congress.

And that's a bad thing? Both the states and Congress have to get three-fourths of the states to ratify a proposed amendment. What makes one proposed by Congress more worthy than one proposed via a convention of states?

-PJ

16 posted on 03/29/2016 3:33:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706
These can be tricky waters--especially when you consider the hatred held by the elite for the 2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment is the only thing, in my opinion, standing between We the People and total dictatorship.

17 posted on 03/29/2016 3:42:10 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: cotton1706; All
"What if a supermajority of states could override a federal law or Supreme Court ruling [emphasis added]?"

Oh my gosh !

Here’s at least a partial list of all the constitutional amendments that the states have already ratified to override a Supreme Court ruling.

Corrections welcome.

New constitutional amendments that the states need to consider are as follows.


18 posted on 03/29/2016 3:42:43 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
13th Amendment effectively overrode Dred Scott v. Sandford

The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment overruled the Dred Scott decision. The decision applied to Blacks generally, not just slaves, so the 13th Amendment was not enough.

19 posted on 03/29/2016 4:11:33 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17; All
"The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment overruled the Dred Scott decision."

You’re right. Got the wires crossed.

20 posted on 03/29/2016 4:34:11 PM PDT by Amendment10
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