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1 posted on 02/14/2016 5:18:34 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Roberts aided landmark case on gay rights / His pro bono work helped activists win Supreme Court ruling

http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Roberts-aided-landmark-case-on-gay-rights-His-2650380.php


2 posted on 02/14/2016 5:20:59 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Roberts has turned out to be a disappointment as a
‘conservative’ he hid his left of center believes well.


3 posted on 02/14/2016 5:21:38 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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Here we go again.

When the pick was announced, everyone here at FR, gave it thumbs up. No one thought Roberts would become a turncoat that he is, so your little hit piece on Cruz is BS.

4 posted on 02/14/2016 5:22:19 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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But Ted said he didn’t back him and wouldn’t have nominated him?

Liar.


6 posted on 02/14/2016 5:23:22 AM PST by jimbo807
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Hey noob, I know your time here at FR can be measured in months so you are probably utterly clueless....but EVERYONE here at FR thought the Roberts selection was a great choice. I literally do not recall a single person objecting to his selection. All of FR was ecstatic after the Harriet Meyers debacle. So we can’t hardly fault Cruz for making the same determination, now can we? So you can take your hindsight’s 20/20 BS and shove it.


7 posted on 02/14/2016 5:24:17 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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that is just what we need, another justice with a short record. Think Kennedy and Souter.


11 posted on 02/14/2016 5:26:47 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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We must not let this be about Cruz or Trump. We don’t have that luxury anymore. I say this as a Cruz supporter. We must focus, unite as a movement (conservatism) to STOP the SC nomination of Obama. It doesn’t matter who he nominates, whomever it is, we know already it will be someone unacceptable. No vetting required.

We must stop the infighting; we must focus now on calling our Senators, tearing up the phone lines and filling up inboxes. I realize they are on recess, but it must be done. They are only on recess for a week (next week). We must focus on the Senate, harassing them with as much fervor as we can muster, as much tenacity as we have expressed towards our “enemy” candidate (whomever that might be, be it Cruz or Trump). We must focus that energy on stopping Obama.

The death of Scalia is indeed a game changer. It’s time to unite now, even though the primaries aren’t over. It’s time to stop focusing on “our” candidate, and start focusing on stopping Obama’s wretched plan. We thought we could ignore him now, but Scalia’s death changes this. He still can do tremendous damage. He must be stopped. We can’t do it if we are too busy fighting for “our” candidate.

Obama is most likely going to nominate someone on Tuesday. We must be prepared to fight this on a united front. He will claim that he’s making a “recess appointment” so no Senate confirmation will be required. He will then try to bully the Senate into accepting this. We must not let this happen. We must focus on fighting HIM now, not each other.

The Left has shown they can unite when needed; it’s time we do the same!


12 posted on 02/14/2016 5:27:54 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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Nice research. From what Cruz wrote back then, it seems like he didn't even try to make a case that Roberts would be a consistent conservative on the bench. That strong advocacy of Roberts is based to a great deal on him being a good team player for GWB in the fight for FL against Gore. Cruz was also part of that effort.

Which side is Cruz on?

13 posted on 02/14/2016 5:28:09 AM PST by grania
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PING


16 posted on 02/14/2016 5:29:07 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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Half the country already thinks she *is* on the Supreme Court.

So hey, why not?


21 posted on 02/14/2016 5:34:24 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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Roberts would be fitting for the times considering his tourtured logic in declaring ACA a tax.

Scalia’s death may very well be that pivotal moment between when you thought everything was trending and going wrong to when you could place the actual time when you knew it. Night of Long Knifes was another in another era.


23 posted on 02/14/2016 5:37:02 AM PST by zek157
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SOUTER IN ROBERTS' CLOTHING Ann Coulter on John Roberts back in 2005
37 posted on 02/14/2016 5:53:33 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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Roberts was a catastrophe. Remember he was second choice after Bush II tried to appoint his personal attorney as a justice.


38 posted on 02/14/2016 5:54:56 AM PST by ZULU (If you support Stokes or Obama, you are too stupid to own a gun.)
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When W Bush nominated John Roberts, I myself thought, based on his record, writings, and answers to the Congressional judicial panel, that he would be a constitutionalist in the mold of at leas a William Rehnquist.

In other words, I was quite enthusiastic about Roberts.

Who would have thought that he would morph into this judge/legislator when it came to Obamacare? Did anybody really think he/she could predict that?

Heck, even the Sainted Ronald Reagan thought that Anthiny Kennedy would be a good Justice. Who woulda thunk back then that over two and a half decades later, he would give us gay marriage?

One can NEVER know how a person would change.


44 posted on 02/14/2016 6:01:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Ah, the Trump boiler room Topic du Jour!


50 posted on 02/14/2016 6:06:22 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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I worried abot Roberts in 2005, but I was not here, so there is no record. I don’t trust people like him that are a blank slate, and that was what he was. Bush wanted an easy pick/


54 posted on 02/14/2016 6:14:38 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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From 2012:
In the below article it says Seven years ago...

That is a tremendous amount of time for things to change... Roberts either has been corrupted or blackmailed.
Regardless. I think it is fair to say he hasn't lived up to what Cruz thought of him.

It is quite silly to blame Cruz for not being able to predict the future.

John Roberts is No Longer Appearing on Conservative Merit Badges

Seven years ago, during the confirmation hearings for John Roberts, Texas Solicitor General Ted Cruz penned a gushing op-ed for National Review.

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Not anymore. When Roberts helped save "Obamacare," Cruz immediately blasted the Court for having "abdicated its responsibility to safeguard the Constitution." He didn't mention Roberts by name, but he insisted that the decision was more proof that Republicans needed to reject Cruz's opponent, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. "My opponent is, by nature and by over a decade of political office, a conciliator. Now is not a time for conciliation."

So here is the condensed timeline:

1995 - While clerking for Chief Justice William Rehnquist, I and my two fellow law clerks asked the chief whom he thought was the best Supreme Court lawyer currently practicing. The chief replied, with a twinkle in his eye, that he thought he could probably get a majority of his colleagues to agree that John Roberts was the best Supreme Court advocate in the nation.
2000 - Cruz recruits Roberts to assist Bush team in Florida Recount for about a week.
July 20, 2005 -
Roberts Nominated For Supreme Court
July 20, 2005 - Ted Cruz writes article support roberts
August 4, 2005 - Drudge says new york times is investigating Roberts adoption papers

Apparently when the Democrats realized they could control a Supreme Court Justice’s vote through blackmail over his having committed a number of international crimes the Times pulled back and dropped its investigation. The Democrat paper of record pulled back because it didn’t want to ” break the seal of an adoption case” – as if violating laws ever means anything to Democrats in their quest for power. Keep in mind Barack Obama’s violation of his opponents “sealed” divorce records propelled him to a US Senate seat.

September 12, 2005 - Senate confirmation hearing began for Roberts. I have found no mention whatsoever of Roberts possible adoption problems, being brought up in the confirmation
September 30, 2005 - John Roberts Confirmed. All 55 Republicans, hallf of the Democrats and an independent voted Yes.

now skip forward 10 years later in the year 2015

June 20, 2015 - Chief Justice John Roberts broke with his three conservative colleagues on the Supreme Court and voted to uphold a key provision of the Affordable Care Act
June 29, 2015 - Texas Sen. Ted Cruz says ......Roberts “put on an Obama jersey” in writing the majority opinion in the last two landmark court cases on Obamacare.
June 30, 2015 - “Mr. Cruz was so enraged by the health-care ruling — as well as last week’s decision, not supported by Mr. Roberts, upholding gay marriage — that Mr. Cruz is calling for a constitutional amendment that would require Mr. Roberts and other Justices to stand for election every 8 years.

How well do you know anyone you have briefly worked with?
Looking at the above timeline, how was Cruz supposed to know when he wrote his article of support that Roberts had possibly secret illegal adoption of children from Ireland, and that the Democrats had leverage for blackmail?

55 posted on 02/14/2016 6:21:00 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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John Roberts appointed 2005

Ted Cruz wins Senate seat 2012.

Nice try though.

56 posted on 02/14/2016 6:24:39 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Oh yeah, Roberts has turned out so well, huh.

... the obligatory /s


69 posted on 02/14/2016 7:32:26 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Name me w prominent conservative back the. Who didn’t support Roberts and knew he’d become a traitor? You can’t because this pick was pretty much applauded universally.


77 posted on 02/14/2016 8:10:00 AM PST by JSDude1
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