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New Media Landscape Makes National Review's Pursuit to Take Out Trump Pointless as It is Pouty
Mediaite ^ | 1/22/16 | Joe Concha

Posted on 01/23/2016 7:19:59 AM PST by jimbo123

The hubris of the defeated was on full display on The Kelly File last night. And upon witnessing it via DVR this morning, there's only one word that comes to mind optically when it comes to Megyn's four conservative guests to kick off the show:

Pouty.

Media Matters. National Review. Polar opposites in terms of ideology. Identical twins when it comes to the narcissism, unlimited ego and an overwhelming feeling of self-importance via - and especially similar on this point - advocacy journalism. Know this: Each publication really believes it will have some kind of meaningful impact on the outcome of their respective Democratic and GOP primaries. And at one time, they may have been true to a certain extent.

But no more.

To review, Media Matters is an online outlet flaunting its tax-exempt status in its sole goal of protecting and promoting Hillary Clinton via the creepy David Brock. On the conservative side, National Review now joins Media Matters - at least in terms of its effort not so much to endorse and elevate a candidate (although its obviously appears to be Ted Cruz in NR's case) but in its new - and ultimately fruitless - mission to destroy one in Donald Trump. And it was certainly a sad sight witnessing four of the 22 writers who each published manifestos "Against Trump" on Megyn Kelly's program last night to argue - in patently-ornery form - that Trump really isn't what they define as a true conservative.

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The Kelly File welcomed Rich Lowry and his band of pious pundits last night to make their case against Trump. The desperation is apparent, as any influence they once owned is clearly slipping away: You must listen to us! Trump isn't who you think he is! He isn't Reagan, dammit!

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cnsrvtvtreehouse; davidbrock; election2016; erickerickson; glennbeck; joeconcha; marklevin; mediaite; mediamatters; megynkelly; nationalreview; newyork; pinkstain; pinkstate; politico; redstate; redstategathering; richlowry; rogerailes; sundance; trump
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1 posted on 01/23/2016 7:19:59 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I hae the ability to read Nat. REview anytime I want.

but I get better commentary from the anti-progressives on YouTube than these people any day of the week.

It’s the last gasp of a publication, that died with its founder, to try to reassert itself in an age where Huffington Post has more readers on a slow day than it does in 6 months.

Add this with these pathetic conservative blogs that most people have never heard of, and talk radio that still thinks AM is the wave of the future, and you see why media on the right sucks so badly.

It is nothing more than a vehicles for people to make money for themselves, while thinking that they command voting blocs or have any influence outside of primaries.


2 posted on 01/23/2016 7:24:58 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

They misread the landscape.

Conservatives don’t have a problem with conservative philosophy. They simply don’t believe in the agents of conservatism here and now. They’re rejecting them as weak and ineffective, not to mention obnoxious and nasty to their own voters.

They don’t show this kind of nastiness to Obama and the democrats.

This is all being noted. Lost credibility is difficult to regain. #DoOrDie


3 posted on 01/23/2016 7:28:33 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: jimbo123
I'll see you and raise you one, jimbo.


4 posted on 01/23/2016 7:32:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: VanDeKoik; jimbo123
I think most of the conservative punditry hating Trump has to do more with jealously then ideology.

They have a problem with Trump but Dole was okay, Bush, McCain, Romney. Trump is more conservative than any those.

I did not realize how far in the tank some of these psuedo-cons are/were

5 posted on 01/23/2016 7:34:05 AM PST by datricker (Like America vote Trump)
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To: jimbo123

It’s stupid and childish.


6 posted on 01/23/2016 7:35:07 AM PST by Hattie
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To: VanDeKoik

true words


7 posted on 01/23/2016 7:36:11 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: jimbo123

“Alas, there is no grand principle on display here. There is nothing but opportunism and ego. For a long time now, Sarah Palin has been apt to say anything and everything to keep the cameras buzzing around her hive. This rotten endorsement completes the decline. What, we might ask, has become of Palin’s beloved Tea Party? What, too, of her purported admiration for limited government, and of her ostensible hatred of heretics and fakers? The prospect of a mass movement that was earnestly committed to libertarianism was always a little too good to be true, but even I didn’t imagine it ending like this. All that talk of the Constitution and the Declaration; all that energy expended against the cronies and the rent-seekers; all those purifying voter drives — and for what? So that Sarah Palin could add a few zeroes to her bank balance and Donald Trump could go from the purchaser to the bought? Today was the day that Rick Santelli’s famous yelp finally melted into populism and avarice. Today, at about ten minutes past six, P. T. Barnum beat out Hayek for the soul of the insurgent Right. Today, the rebels became the charlatans they had set out to depose. What comes next will be anybody’s guess.”

—Charles C.W. Cooke


8 posted on 01/23/2016 7:37:05 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ted Grant

Clear and succinct summary.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 7:37:45 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Ted Grant

A lot of them are just old and out of touch. They started in the 80s and 90s and still think that it is!

Not that there is anything wrong with age, but these guys have made their bank, and are happy with phoning it in for years as everything has gone to crap, because they still get paid either way.

Now, at whose command we dont know, they want to try to use “power” they think they have, to change the dynamic of the race? I dont think so.


10 posted on 01/23/2016 7:42:25 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Buckley’s formula was very simple: support “the rightwardmost viable candidate.” In the general election, that means if it’s Hillary or Trump, vote Trump. In the primary, if it’s Trump or Cruz or Rubio, vote the later. Why go super negative against the only horse you may have to ride?


11 posted on 01/23/2016 7:42:26 AM PST by qwertyz
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To: VanDeKoik
The liberal press not only functions to make money (capitalism) but they also make that money by lying.
12 posted on 01/23/2016 7:45:57 AM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: Ted Grant

Conservatives don’t have a problem with conservative philosophy. They simply don’t believe in the agents of conservatism here and now. They’re rejecting them as weak and ineffective, not to mention obnoxious and nasty to their own voters.

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+10 You hit the nail on the head.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 7:51:23 AM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Ted Grant

“Conservatives don’t have a problem with conservative philosophy. They simply don’t believe in the agents of conservatism here and now. They’re rejecting”

This is dead on correct. Excellent and succinct summation of what is going on here and why Trump remains (rightly or wrongly) the front runner.


14 posted on 01/23/2016 8:01:21 AM PST by Nicojones
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To: datricker

Most of these so-called conservative pundits work for the Cheap Labor Express as propagandists to convince us to give up our country without a fight.


15 posted on 01/23/2016 8:06:44 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

These people don’t have a noble cause they were paid. Would you do this for nothing? It’s the political season people make money off campaigns. Who gains? Get out the Bushes. Barbara does a campaign adfor New Hamshire,blah, blah. More to come. Can we get smart and not be really stupid.


16 posted on 01/23/2016 8:16:10 AM PST by magua
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To: jimbo123

They are all dressed in black as if they are going to a funeral


17 posted on 01/23/2016 8:42:56 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: Ted Grant

You totally nailed it with post #3. Excellent analysis.


18 posted on 01/23/2016 9:14:41 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ncpatriot

Who are they in that pic. Kelly I know, but not the others.


19 posted on 01/23/2016 9:40:27 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; gogeo; VanDeKoik; Qiviut; Nicojones

Thanks for the kind words. I expanded upon my post and have posted it earlier this afternoon on NR’s website. In just a couple of hours I have got a lot of great feedback, so since I pretty much posted it here first, I thought I’d share a slightly refined version of it. I hope you enjoy it and thanks! Keep the faith!

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National Review means well, but they mean well in the same way a retarded cousin means well. Their latest grandstand “Against Trump” play misreads the political landscape.

Most conservatives don’t have a problem with conservative philosophy and genuinely believe in it. Conservatives by nature tend to be more process oriented (develop good, fair processes and you will get good, fair, and predictable results). Liberals by nature tend to be more goal oriented (arrive at a good goal and no matter how you get to it, you will end up getting good results).

This is not a knock on either approach, nor saying each side doesn’t have some of both of these elements, but I am just stating it as a general principle.

Conservatives are finally frustrated with the process, especially as they see a steady stream of tremendous liberal victories which they instinctively know we will all have to live with for anywhere from 25 to 50 years or more.

There’s the realization that the liberals have triumphed on major policy and cultural fronts. Obama is indeed the transformative president he promised he would be.

The process has failed conservatives. There’s a perception that sticking to the rules doesn’t get us positive results, especially when the other side is bending the rules and using every trick in the book to run circles around our elected leaders and their media advocates (outfits like NR).

They win, we lose, and our side has a dozen excuses but they can’t break free of their process oriented mentality.
So they keep losing, and still promise their voters they will accomplish great things, but still keep losing when it comes to the process.

The GOP candidates and their friendly media outlets demonstrate that they are remarkably obtuse when it comes to appreciating what is going on.

So we get the usual variations on “Trump isn’t a principled conservative.” These would be a showstopper just a few years ago (when their voters were more process oriented), but in 2016, the voters are alienated and the people making this argument seem genuinely befuddled. “Why isn’t this working? Why aren’t they listening to us?”

The problem isn’t that the Republican voters aren’t conservative anymore. They simply don’t believe in the agents of conservatism they have entrusted with power.

They’re now finally rejecting them as weak and ineffective, not to mention obnoxious and increasingly nasty to their own voters.

This is true for their feelings towards conservative media outlets too, like NR.

Republican voters have moved away from being process oriented and are becoming goal oriented. They’re not “moving away,” they have “moved away.”

Appeals to sound, principled process are falling flat, since the voters have seen with their own eyes that liberals triumph without much regard to sound, sensible process, and that their Republican elected officials are so inept at the process that they can’t mount a successful defense against the liberal lines of attack.

Conservatives didn’t stop believing in conservative philosophy. They have just stopped believing in their candidates and their media outlets. They’ve come to the completely rational conclusion that liberals are probably going to win in 2016 anyway, and if somehow a Republican did manage to win, odds are he or she would be so weak, inept, and ineffective that the liberals will probably continue to advance their agenda, anyway.

So now, the only goal oriented candidate is winning. It’s not a shock if you have been paying attention and have clarity.

I’ve called Trump the expected equal and opposite reaction to Obama. I’ve noted to both liberals and conservatives I know that he even swiped Obama’s 2008 campaign playbook (big media personality, well attended & enthusiastic rallies, a broad slogan that allows anyone to project whatever he wants to it and go home happy, new media savvy tactics, etc.), but my friends get nervous when I point this out and few commentators on TV (left or right) seem to be able to make this observation. Or is it that they can’t cope with it?

Republican voters have no faith in the Republican party. It doesn’t help the GOP’s cause that they didn’t show this level of nastiness and passion against Obama and the Democrats. It doesn’t help that when Dubya was president, with a GOP congress, they didn’t deliver much on anything their voters wanted and nothing that has endured.

And their voters told them this. Over and over. They just didn’t listen. Process oriented. The process was too difficult, they just didn’t want to go through it. Talk a nice game, then back to business.

Meanwhile when liberals have political power and set goals, they succeed.

The voters have noted this The Republicans have lost a lot of credibility. I see no reason to have any faith in any of them. They’re following the usual script and don’t seem to understand that the audience has seen this movie before and we don’t like the way it ends.

News Flash to GOP Inc: The voters aren’t rejecting conservative philosophy. They’re just rejecting you.

I’ve been a conservative since my teens, through college and law school, and into my professional life. I’ve been a Republican since 18 (1986). I’ve been a fan of NR for decades. And all that being said, I think we’ve completely lost but if you pick up an issue of NR (or like minded journal), or speak with your Republican Congressman, they will be quick to tell you that we’re just one election away from turning this around. It won’t be easy, but once we win, we’ll roll up our sleeves and get it done. You’ll see. We’ll really deliver, this time. Stick to the plan. It got us this far, right?

It’s time to try something else. Sticking to the old game plan is complete nonsense and may be a form of insanity. Like the smart lady said, “what difference, at this point, does it make?”

As for me, with no other credible reasonable choice, I choose to say #MakeAmericaGreatAgain


20 posted on 01/23/2016 1:53:42 PM PST by Ted Grant
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