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Oh my: New poll of New Hampshire puts John Kasich at 20%, just seven points behind Trump
Hotair ^ | 01/19/2016 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/19/2016 12:59:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind

A Trump/Kasich two-man race for the nomination would, I think, trigger the End Times. And I’m an atheist. I’m not even supposed to believe in the End Times.

Are there any conservative voters left in this party?

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Among Republican voters who say they’re definitely going to vote, Trump leads Kasich by … two points, 24/22. I know what the data nerds are going to say: “That’s an ARG poll and ARG has a C- rating for accuracy from FiveThirtyEight.” Fair enough. Discard it if you like but you can’t ignore the trend in New Hampshire. Go have a look at how Kasich’s numbers have developed lately in RCP’s poll average of the state. In November and December, he was polling steadily in single digits. Then, suddenly, none other than ARG pegged him at 13 percent in late December. Here’s how the polling has gone since then:

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Trump, Rubio, Cruz, and Christie are all hovering at around the same level they were at in various polls before the ARG survey in December. The only one who’s moving is Kasich, who was at 7.0 percent in the RCP average on December 17th and has now nearly doubled his share to 13.3 percent. That’s good for second place in the state, as you can see, nearly two full points ahead of the Great Establishment Hope, Marco Rubio. In fact, this makes three polls in a row to have Kasich in second place, albeit tied in the previous two. Meanwhile, Rubio’s just 0.2 percent ahead of Cruz, who will surely catch a bounce in New Hampshire if he wins Iowa or finishes a strong second to Trump. (Chin up, Rubio fans. HuffPo’s poll tracker, which uses a different sample of surveys than RCP, still has him two points ahead of Kasich and Cruz.) The idea that Rubio’s going to surge late in NH as undecideds make up their minds isn’t far-fetched, especially if he beats expectations in Iowa. The idea that he’s going to do it while Kasich, a competitor in the “moderate” lane, is catching fire at the same time is … less plausible. If Trump and Cruz finish far ahead of the field in Iowa, it’s not out of the question that Rubio finishes fourth in New Hampshire behind the two of them and Kasich. He’ll solider on to Florida anyway, but if that happens I think he’s effectively done.

How’s Kasich doing it? Is it his standout debate performances, which have somehow managed to unite voters across the party spectrum in annoyance at him? Is it, as I half-joked above, the fact that there just aren’t many conservatives left in the party, creating room for both a fake conservative like Trump and a loud-and-proud moderate like Kasich in the same New Hampshire primary? I think the truth is more prosaic: Kasich is all-in on New Hampshire, is saturating the market with ads, and no one else is laying a glove on him. Trump and Cruz are killing each other, Cruz and Rubio are killing each other, Rubio and Christie are killing each other, and Bush … well, Bush isn’t really killing anyone but he’s trying to kill Trump and Rubio. And there’s John Kasich, without a scratch on him, racing into second and conceivably now within single digits of catching Trump for the lead. Rubio, Christie, and Bush have exactly three weeks to start blowing this guy up or he’s going to finish top three in the state and the race is quickly going to boil down to Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and John Farking Kasich. Help us, Obi-Wan Cruz-nobi, you’re our only hope.


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To: miss marmelstein

Did you know his father was a mailman?


81 posted on 01/19/2016 7:31:00 PM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: GOPJ

Did you know that the mailman’s son balances budgets?


82 posted on 01/19/2016 7:36:52 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: Hildy
Is it me, or is this the stupidest way to choose a candidate? I am sick of Iowa, I am sick of New Hampshire. Just get on with it.

No, it's not just you. I am also sick of Iowa and New Hampshire. Every four years I have to listen to months and months of corn farmers in Iowa and dairy farmers in New Hampshire prattle on and on over a cup of coffee at some no-name diner in some no-name town. I'm tired of presidential candidates in flannel shirts and boots trying to "get down" with the average Joe in flyover country - in August - with the primary season still half a year away.

I used to live in Massachusetts and we used to drive up to New Hampshire to see what presidential candidate we would run into at some Dairy Queen or roadside clam shack, reassuring some 80-year-old that they would fight for them to keep their social security. It was as predictable as seeing the foliage in fall.

The candidates spend nearly a year courting every possible voter personally in those two states, right down to petting the puppies and kittens. Then when Iowa and New Hampshire are over, they rush through the rest of the early states in a blur, and by the time the snow melts and before half the country even gets to have a say, the nominee is already pretty much a done deal.

Sorry Texas, sorry California. We know you are big states and all. But by the time the primaries come your way, the nominees have already been chosen. But hey, go ahead and vote in your primary anyhow. It will be fun.

83 posted on 01/19/2016 7:44:23 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

As I have said before, I expect Kasich to finish second in NH before fading.


84 posted on 01/19/2016 7:45:32 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: NYRepublican72

I heard that somewhere...


85 posted on 01/20/2016 3:05:30 AM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: 1Old Pro
Me too, Iowa is Iowa and NH is basically a failed state.

Red Hampshire = New York, Jr.

86 posted on 01/20/2016 3:15:14 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Shadow44
Whatever happened to the Free State Project?

Smoking weed and making a difference...

87 posted on 01/20/2016 3:24:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was hoping to dismiss nutty NH with their wide-open system (ANYONE can get in the race for a thousand bucks today)... but looking back at the primaries, NH is actually a much better predictor of the winner than just about anyone. Since Goldwater ('64), NH's primary has picked the winner in every election except '96 (Buchanan over Dole), and '00 (McCain over Bush)... and nobody has won the GOP nomination without placing in the top 2 in NH since 1920 (Gen Leonard Wood over Sen Hiram Johnson).
88 posted on 01/20/2016 3:47:36 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: GOPJ

I did know!


89 posted on 01/20/2016 4:28:09 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I see the Establishment is now bailing on Cruz and pushing Kasich of all people.

Kasich is a joke. He polls 1% nationally.

Guys like Kasich is what is wrong with Washington and not the solution.

Trump will easily win New Hampshire.


90 posted on 01/20/2016 4:37:14 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Shadow44
Whatever happened to the Free State Project?

Need more of those people to move.

They picked the wrong state. They can't keep up with the folks fleeing Massachusetts.

Wyoming would be a better choice. The potheads will stay in Colorado.

The project will be helpless until some state has the guts to say it will not take the federal money that is used to control them.
91 posted on 01/20/2016 4:59:20 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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