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Not a Fan (Bowie)
http://takimag.com/article/not_a_fan_theodore_dalrymple/print#axzz3xQi39LGG ^ | 16 Jan 2016 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 01/18/2016 9:59:21 AM PST by rey

Not a Fan

by Theodore Dalrymple

January 16, 2016

One should not speak ill of the dead, of course, especially of the recently dead, but it does not follow that one should speak well of them, or speak of them at all. Personally I was astonished at the amount of coverage given to the death of David Bowie. One might have thought he was really a figure of world historical importance such as David Beckham or Leonard DiCaprio.

On the day after his death, the supposedly serious newspaper that I take most often when I am in Britain, The Guardian, ran a special 12-page supplement on his life and activity, as well as five pages in its normal section. There have been articles about him on the two subsequent days. I wait patiently for the tide to turn.

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To: jocon307

I think his point is as entertaining as PT Barnum was and as much money as he made one would hardly consider him an artist or cultural icon. Likewise, Bowie was a showman. Like Barnum he knew his audience and how to satisfy them. Barnum is dead as well and that does not make him beyond criticism and neither is Bowie. The reverence with which the press treats Bowie is annoying as he merely prostituted himself to make money.


41 posted on 01/18/2016 10:42:18 AM PST by rey
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To: miss marmelstein

You missed his satire. I have read numerous books by this author. He was a psychiatrist working in UK prisons for decades and his profound understanding of the nihilism in England and the importance of Virtue and the Natural Family in culture, is profound. He wrote tons on the ‘toxic culture” that promotes vice 24/7-—not unlike the homoerotic Weimar Republic.

One of the best books I have ever read on psychology and child development-—he is brilliant.

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Culture-Whats-Left-Mandarins/dp/156663721X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453142423&sr=1-4&keywords=theodore+dalrymple


42 posted on 01/18/2016 10:43:38 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: dfwgator

They don’t want to hear it. This is a dump on Bowie thread.

As an aside, I have the extreme honor to be very close friends with a truly great musician, and through him, friends with another premier musician. The first is mourning the loss of an artist, the second the loss of a musician. Some of the best musicians in the world have paid tribute to Bowie’s talent. Others just carp on his moral failings.


43 posted on 01/18/2016 10:44:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: corkoman

When I was 15 & my Dad was teaching me how to drive, I approached a railroad crossing too fast. The car flew over the ramp as the rear end rose several feet off the ground & then came down again, KABOOMP!!

Dad looked at me and said, “Son you just did a real `thank-you-ma’am’.”

It was years before I knew what that really meant.

;^)


44 posted on 01/18/2016 10:46:37 AM PST by elcid1970 (a)
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To: dfwgator

Bill Clinton raised Chelsea carefully, too. It’s our children they want to corrupt.


45 posted on 01/18/2016 10:47:41 AM PST by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: Fantasywriter

As a big fan of Pat Metheny, I was curious on his experience with working with Bowie on “This Is Not America”, the funny part is that Pat beforehand had no idea who Bowie was. But he found that Bowie was a huge jazz fan who had an obsession with the saxophone. Said he was the nicest person you could ever meet and was very professional.


46 posted on 01/18/2016 10:48:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NorthMountain; rey
Here's one of Umm Kulthum's videos with 11,000,000+ views.. Fast forward to about 4:40 which is where she actually starts singing.

I don't "get" Egyptian music, but I know that's one of my many, MANY profound areas of cultural poverty.

47 posted on 01/18/2016 10:48:24 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers)
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To: DoughtyOne
I took that as a tongue in cheek comment.

Heh, getting too hard to tell anymore!

48 posted on 01/18/2016 10:55:45 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Well, I could be wrong too, but that is how I saw it.

Just thought I’d toss it out there.

Hope things are good for ya.


49 posted on 01/18/2016 10:57:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Every home needs a crewznadian that has been domestically trained.)
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To: rey

Alot of people liked him.
Alot of people didn’t like him.

There you go.


50 posted on 01/18/2016 10:59:52 AM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hope things are good for ya.

Thanks, they are... same to you ;)

51 posted on 01/18/2016 11:00:46 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I think he was being facetious.


52 posted on 01/18/2016 11:01:59 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: dfwgator

Thank you for that story. Bowie loved jaz—he was very good with his sax. Me, I enjoyed his tribute to country music: Bus Stop.

Just to excite the Bowie bashers, here’s the tribute from Glastonbury:

‘Glastonbury Festival’s Facebook page carried images of the superstar - who performed there in 1971 and 2010 - with the message: “Thank you David Bowie for all the magic and memories.”

Founder Michael Eavis told the BBC of Bowie’s maiden appearance at the Somerset festival: “He had lovely long flowing hair, a right hippie-looking lad. Fantastically beautiful he looked, actually.

“Nobody knew who he was, he played at four in the morning at sunrise, songs we’d never heard before.

“He’s one of the three greatest in the world, ever - Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley and David Bowie. There’s no one else even close.”’


53 posted on 01/18/2016 11:04:03 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“:^)


54 posted on 01/18/2016 11:04:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Every home needs a crewznadian that has been domestically trained.)
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To: corkoman

Wham Bam thank you ma’am, was a phrase that existed at least in the 60s, probably long ago. David B in no way invented or even popularized it.


55 posted on 01/18/2016 11:07:26 AM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: miss marmelstein

It is especially entertaining when DailyMail writes a story involving guns then completely hacks up the most simple firearm terminology.


56 posted on 01/18/2016 11:07:55 AM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: rey
So you felt compelled to spend an afternoon telling us how you are not a fan of a certain type of music?

Ok.

57 posted on 01/18/2016 11:08:41 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: rey

Bowie was ok with a couple of songs. I never liked 95% of what he recorded. Too much focus on being weird and too little focus on good music.


58 posted on 01/18/2016 11:12:27 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: moovova
It is true that I know, or knew, practically nothing of him.

OK. But a lot of us did. For a lot of us, Bowie's music was an integral part of our childhoods and our teen years, and we found that his music, unlike so many other things we liked when we were young, still held up. Hence, the widespread sadness and resulting widespread media coverage over his early passing.
59 posted on 01/18/2016 11:18:13 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: miss marmelstein

Your missing his point. This man worked as a psychologist in prisons in the UK for decades and saw the literal killing of children and destruction of the Natural Family and understood on a profound level how a whole generation of children were literally being destroyed.

His point....today’s children don’t know who Churchill and Michelangelo are unless they are turtles. They are that culturally dumbed-down and ignorant. Their tastes are toxic and banal. The Excellence (virtue) that WAS Western Civilization has been destroyed by the institutions in our “culture”-—and the transmission of Virtue (excellence) is no longer being done——sewage is pumped into their heads 24/7 and it is can only promote nihilism of a Bowie.


60 posted on 01/18/2016 11:18:41 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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