Posted on 01/09/2016 7:23:10 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
It's a good thing Trump wants to rebuild our manufacturing base, because it truly has taken a hit. We've turned from a nation of builders to burger flippers.
To put in perspective just how bad things have gotten - there were more Americans employed in manufacturing in the months leading up to Pearl Harbor than there are today, despite the fact that the population then was a fraction of what it is today.
In that time, there was 1 person employed in manufacturing for every 10.6 people in the overall population compared to 1 person employed in government for every 26.1 people in the overall population.
Oh how things have changed. As CNS News reported:
Those employed by government in the United States in August of this year outnumbered those employed in the manufacturing sector by almost 1.8 to 1, according to data published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
There were 21,995,000 employed by federal, state and local government in the United States in August, according to BLS. By contrast, there were only 12,329,000 employed in the manufacturing sector.
The 2015 Federal budget spends an unprecedented $3.7 trillion which leaves us with a deficit of over half a trillion dollars.
Trump's plan to restore the manufacturing base consists of placing tariffs on Chinese goods and reducing our relatively high corporate tax rate which incentivizes businesses to set up overseas.
There's a huge opportunity to kill two birds with one stone here. Shrink the government, and when people ask where those former government employees are going to work we'll have some nice manufacturing jobs waiting for them.
(Excerpt) Read more at allenbwest.com ...
Is this your response to that silly polka-dot chart a Cruz-bot pastes into every thread?
I started replying to each of those posts, but got bored....
I was at Walmart today, looking for some household items.
I looked and looked and looked....but could not find a single item which said MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT.
Then I went to the grocery store. The usual list.
I looked and looked and looked....but could not find a single item which said MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT.
So what are the 25-26 million government workers doing?
What are they producing? Who pays them? Any private sector outfit producing nothing useful would be bankrupt in a week.
Repeat after me: public employees don’t pay taxes.
Say this as many times as you need to until is sinks in. NO public employee pays ANYthing for taxes, retirement, unemployment insurance, medical benefits, ANY of it.
This is a fundament of economics as simple as “you get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax.†and almost no one gets it and certainly no one is talking about it. Not out in the open. It’s contrary to how our consensus public education victimhood would have us think about wealth creation, redistribution, generational theft.
How can someone who is PAID by taxing the wage-earners, the ones who CREATE value in the economy, pay taxes? It may say they do on their pay stub, sure, and they are asked to “put in a little more†for benefits, but in reality, every time a public employee from President Obeyme down to the least-paid garbage collector (cough-cough… don’t they make something like $200,000 a year in New York City?) gets a raise, it is paid for by someone who MAKES that money. The money they are paid is redistributed from wage-earners.
Think of it this way: a public employee saying the too pay taxes is like a man standing in a bathtub with a tea cup scooping up and pouring out water saying “see, I’m filling the tub.”
Think it over. Change the conversation. Pass it along. Open someone else’s eyes.
The discussion should be, are we truly getting value for our money spent and how do we take control of government “by, of and for the people” back from politicians corrupted by taxpayers dollars laundered through teachers/public employee unions, planned parenthood, Solyndra, GE, and all the rest?
How do we delegitimize the naming of roads, public buildings, parks, stadiums after “public officials” who have made a lifetime’s wealth out of bilking the true wage-earners out of the fruits of their labor and, like Mooch hell Obeyme, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, done their level best to make them feel guilty for wanting to keep more of it while they live large at wage earners’ children’s children’s children’s expense.
If you don’t get this, don’t argue, you’ll only display the depths of your ignorance for all to see.
Various factions have conspired/collaborated to make manufacturing in USA a more and more daunting proposition.
I was at a boot store today, where more and more of the merchandise hails from China and Mexico. The salesguy told me this is due in some part to easier regulations pertaining to rubber for boot soles — that the leather is US leather and is sent to China to get soles because that’s cheaper than running an EPA/OSHA/whatever compliant factory here.
I don’t know about soles, but souls seem to have been sold because any incompetent who wants to add a rule seems to have a way of doing it, and the rule virtually never gets backed out or replaced with a more efficient rule even focused on the very same end.
A fellow like Trump would have little patience with this. No he wouldn’t want to abolish OSHA, etc. rules wholesale... he’s got too much liberal left in him if nothing more... but he would want them to make business sense because he can see it from management point of view too. Might end up establishing some rule revision committees focused on just that kind of thing.
I’m making more of an effort and spending a bit more if I have to. I only buy 100% florida OJ (most OJ is a mixture, mostly south America). Today I bought a new set of fry pans (3 for $29!) at Sams- made in USA. We all need to put our money where our mouth is. Some things are virtually impossible to find made here though, sadly.
Not only the government workers PRODUCE NOTHING useful, they are stupid and wasteful.
Have you heard that Millions over age 112 have Social Security numbers, and getting social security checks?
And it’s not because we’re living longer. Nobody told the government those people died long time ago. So the checks keep coming! Unbelievable.
Like what? Lately it seems like I can't even buy American car parts that are made in America. I'd really like to know what all these finished products are. It's not tools, it's not car parts, it's not electronics. What?
THIS...
“Bureaucracy is predatory at the Federal and State levels.”
Yes!!
Thanks!
“The U.S. employs a lot less people in manufacturing than we used to, but we are still produce more finished products than ever before.”
Almost everything I buy says ‘Made in China’ on it. There are not even options in most cases to buy an American-made version.
-—The manufacturing jobs didn’t disappear, there still around.
No that’s not true, there’s a lot of machines doing work that was done by workers. There’s increased computer control and communication that reduces labor requirements. And many of those automated jobs were less safe and had occupational exposure to hazardous materials.
Some were forced overseas by economics and regulations, but not all.
And they’re not looking into that because the other mess-ups are even worse.
They might be a very conscience-stricken set. I can relate the experience I had hired on a government Medicaid contract. Humongous computer system that matches claims from doctor offices to paying agencies. I got called in by a guy who got a wild enough hair that he actually thought my resume was excellent, and he thought the hiring firm would like excellence. Well the problem was that I had too excellent a sense of humor for the government client. And let me tell you how stupid it was! The fellow who hired me and was assigned to be my mentor (though he didn’t do all that much due to other inefficiencies including not even getting me an account on the main machine, meaning they paid me for a lot of thumb twiddling and I got bored) liked to go outside and smoke, and he wore a trench coat to do so. I kidded with him about his being a “spy.” Looked just the part of the classic movie spy. Unbeknownst to me, I got overheard in a neighboring cubicle on a call with the client. They soon complained about hearing talk about spies! Well I got fired soon afterwards, and this fellow seemed to be mysteriously gone, too. I guess a case of if the client gets a cold, the contractor gets pneumonia?
Yes it is.
Lots of folks seemed to be miffed about that thing, so I didn’t tag it.
I have begun doing so. Some folks were wondering.
Thanks for the mention.
I guess because it’s from St. Levin it’s supposed to be genuflected to or something. If anything it makes Isara sound desperate and Levin sound like a kook.
We lead in the printing business. We have now printed $19,000,000,000,000 excess dollars. That could count as some of the things we make.
And here’s where Trump gets inside what (IIRC) is called their OODA loop.
HE NEVER PRESENTED HIMSELF AS A CONSERVATIVE.
Therefore we already have one strawman here.
He did present himself as a listening populist, and the results seem to speak pretty eloquently. I say anyone who is disappointed by Trump’s agenda, probably never seriously proposed something different to Trump. We have an open door marked Opportunity here and people are wailing as though that door was supposed to produce some kind of pandering prince (yes, modern conservatives have their own form of pandering) rather than needing us to get off our rears and walk through it.
That’s my take as well.
I used to have some respect for Levin, but Isara not only destroyed my appreciation for Cruz, but he did a number on Levin too.
One guy never claimed to be but essentially is.
One guy has claimed to have always been, which is a bald faced lie.
Ask me which I respect more.
“So what are the 25-26 million government workers doing?”
They’re getting paid double what you’re getting, retiring at age 55 and driving around the country in six-figured RV’s...while you are still working.
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