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Ted Cruz: Trump Will Let Deported Immigrants Back In, I Won’t
BuzzFeed ^ | 1/5/16 | S/Kacynski

Posted on 01/05/2016 8:28:11 AM PST by VinL

Ted Cruz said during an appearance in Iowa on Monday that there’s a difference between him and Donald Trump on immigration.

The Texas senator, who is leading the field of Republican presidential candidates in Iowa according to the latest polls, was asked by a man in the state if, like Trump, he believed that all undocumented immigrants should be deported.

Cruz replied, “Absolutely yes.”

“And in fact, look, there’s a difference,” said Cruz. “He’s advocated allowing folks to come back in and become citizens. I oppose that.”

Cruz is on a six-day trip around the state to shore up support for his candidacy. He made the remarks during an appearance in Boone. The video of the exchange was uploaded to YouTube on Tuesday. Here’s a transript of the exchange:

QUESTIONER: Both you and Donald Trump are really strong on immigration, but he supports deporting all the illegal immigrants. Are you willing to say the same?

TED CRUZ: Absolutely, yes. We should enforce the law.

Q: All?

T.C.: We should enforce the law.

Q: Ok.

T.C.: And in fact, look, there’s a difference. He’s advocated allowing folks to come back in and become citizens. I oppose that.

Q: So no citizens and all of them?

T.C.: So, if you read I have a very detailed 11-page immigration proposal that’s on my website it’s TedCruz.org. It was designed with Steve King and Jeff Sessions were the two who sat down with me to prepare it and it is enforce the law across the board.


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To: GrouchoTex

And there’s simply no way for his supporters to whitewash it or to justify it.

Trump is completely untrustworthy.


101 posted on 01/05/2016 10:18:49 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: usafa92; Jane Long

Jane, don’t know why this poster keeps citing you in, if I missed something from you, pls let me know.

But, see Jane, these are the “3rd graders” that I ignore— as opposed to Trump supporters who actually engage in legitimate policy discussion ..


102 posted on 01/05/2016 10:19:15 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

Sorry, not buying. It’s all hot air. Between Cruz and Trump only one of has introduced a U. S. Senate amendment to increase immigration via the broken H-1B visa process by 500%. That’s a position he held for over 2 years before withdrawing it for his POTUS run.

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137

Sen. Cruz’s amendment would:

Immediately increase the H-1B cap by 500 percent from 65,000 to 325,000.

To truly fix our broken immigration system and take into account our nation’s economic needs, we must put more emphasis on increasing employment-based immigration. There is a current shortage of qualified high-skilled workers in the U.S., with an estimated 230,000 advanced-degree STEM jobs going unfilled by 2018.
Additionally, more H-1B workers mean more jobs for American workers – according to a study by the American Enterprise Institute, for every additional 100 H-1B workers, 183 jobs are created for U.S. citizens.


103 posted on 01/05/2016 10:19:30 AM PST by lodi90
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To: eastforker

If I offer you less than market value and a reduced benefits package because you know I’ll just hire an illegal or an H1B, then replace you after I make you train your replacement, then you tell me.

Actually I did for a while when I was younger. I saw first hand what greed and market manipulation does to labor markets. Later, I saw what it did to the white collar market.


104 posted on 01/05/2016 10:20:25 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Lakeshark

To claim Cruz has a better policy or is stronger on this issue is foolishness.

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If Cruz is going to deport all illegals, and not bring them back, how is that a weaker position than Trump’s?


106 posted on 01/05/2016 10:21:43 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: eastforker

If you are not getting qualified applicants at the rate you are offering then you have to increase the rate offered. Hiring is not rocket science.


107 posted on 01/05/2016 10:23:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WENDLE
"I actually oppose lying. Cruz ,you are losing me. "

Losing you? You switched from Trump to Cruz? When?

108 posted on 01/05/2016 10:23:22 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: Lakeshark; VinL
To claim Cruz has a better policy or is stronger on this issue is foolishness.

Right. It is preposterous. To further show the differences between Cruz and Trump. Trump knows children born in the United States of illegal immigrants are not US citizens. He has said so and that is correct.

109 posted on 01/05/2016 10:23:49 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

Gotta ping the hyena pack to support you, huh?

LOL, this primary season is going to be tough on you.


110 posted on 01/05/2016 10:24:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: Lakeshark
Anyone remember this? Ted and Glenn at the border before Trump became the front runner (yes, because of the Trump stance on illegals):

Yes I remember it in full context. Perhaps you should check the link and refresh your memory.

Compassionate Conservative Ted Cruz Hands Out Teddy Bears At The Border, Then Moves On To Deporting Dreamers

111 posted on 01/05/2016 10:25:16 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: CatherineofAragon

27 days to go Catherine when it all starts. You better buck up top face reality.


112 posted on 01/05/2016 10:26:38 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: VinL

But yet you took the time to respond to a 3rd grader. Thanks Vin. You made my day.


113 posted on 01/05/2016 10:27:23 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: SteveSCH

Again, Steve, - it’s not private if one says it at a public campaign rally-— perhaps you’re trying to convey something else.

As for your point that Trump is stronger than Cruz on immigration— that appears to be the significance of Cruz’s current comment-— if Trump is going to bring back illegals, while Cruz is not— Trump’s position is no longer stronger than Cruz’s- look for Cruz to call it amnesty.


114 posted on 01/05/2016 10:27:34 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Yes, I did take a moment. From my office, to the coffee machine, it’s amazing what an up dose of caffeine can do for your brain ;)

As far as ‘souring’ on Cruz... After getting bombarded by emails from Cruz, Heidi, their dog, ect I was legitimately angry at his campaign.

With that said I still like Cruz and I believe you can be critical of a candidate even if you like them. For instance I like Donald Trump but I think he’s intellectually lazy.

In the end Cruz and Trump are two sides of the same pro-American coin. If either wins, we win. They are very, very different kinds of people, and I wish Cruz’s intellectualism, and Trump’s charisma were found in one candidate.


115 posted on 01/05/2016 10:28:12 AM PST by SteveSCH
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To: VinL
I think you don't see the issue here, it's one of expedience.

Trump led on this issue, took heat as a racist, took on the media and brought it to the forefront. It would not have been this major an issue without him putting it on the front burner for all to see. This has NEVER been a strong issue for Cruz.....well.....until after Trump's success with it, he finally changed his somewhat weak past on it. He changed on H1 visas and from the foolish empathy message he tried to send with Glenn Beck only now when he can see it would help him.

That's a problem for me, and maybe should be for most conservatives.

I have the same problem with Trump's early statement about Pam Geller's drawing contest.

116 posted on 01/05/2016 10:28:32 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Zenjitsuman

in all fairness, tough talking.

but tough? wow, that’s a leap. I like trump but he hasn’t voted on nor presented an immigration bill.

amazing how POTUS and SCOTUS change their views and actions once elected sometimes.

I hope neither one of them do, whichever gets elected.


117 posted on 01/05/2016 10:29:01 AM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Trump announces for President and says we are going to build a wall and everyone says, Hooray!

Then he says we are going to put a great big beautiful door in that wall and let the good ones back, still everyone says, Hooray (sort of).

Then he says we will expedite the return of those we sent out to return, can we get another, Hooray!

Trump is a business man, a negotiator, which is why a lot of people like him.

He knew all along he would try to expedite the return of people who came in illegally.

This is what he does.

He starts out saying “I want 100 million for this Hotel”, all the while knowing he would gladly take 80 million, then brag about what a wonderful deal he has made.

This is who he is. He started with throw them all out and build a wall and ended up at expedite return for illegals.
It is what he has wanted all along. He is negotiating.


118 posted on 01/05/2016 10:29:06 AM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: VinL

This shows a GOPe coordination with Cruz - both talking the same crap. “Surging Ted” is getting desperate.


119 posted on 01/05/2016 10:29:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: AuntB

That deserves it own thread. Nice find.


120 posted on 01/05/2016 10:31:26 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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