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Reporter asks Ted Cruz four times: “How do you define amnesty?”
Hot Air ^ | 12/01/2015

Posted on 12/01/2015 10:41:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

The best part is when she asks the obvious follow-up -- is a path to legalization "amnesty"? -- and he won't even make eye contact.

There's a spectrum of answers to this question on the right, of course:

1. Amnesty is citizenship without preconditions. That's the strictest definition, and naturally the one preferred by Beltway Republicans like Marco Rubio in his Gang of Eight days. (Marco Rubio circa 2010 had a different view.) As long as you're forcing illegals to jump through some sort of hoop, be it learning English, paying back taxes, going to the back of the line, etc, that's not amnesty -- even if you're granting them citizenship. Anything short of immediate voting rights for illegals, no questions asked, is A-OK.

2. Amnesty is citizenship. That's Jeb Bush's position, as I understand it. Jeb will legalize 'em, let 'em stay in the U.S. and work, but allowing them to become full citizens with voting rights goes too far in rewarding them for breaking our laws. The most an illegal can aspire to be is a permanent legal resident. Beyond that lies amnesty.

3. Amnesty is legalization unless you've improved security first. That's Ted Cruz's position (and Marco Rubio's current position), again as I understand it. This isn't so much a literal definition of "amnesty," which is a matter of legal status, as it is a political compromise between the two prongs of comprehensive immigration reform. Legalization (i.e. work permits) is on the table if and only if we see concrete improvements in internal enforcement first. Border hawks got suckered in 1986 by accepting promises of future border security in return for immediate grants of amnesty; despite the Gang of Eight's best efforts, they won't get suckered again.

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To: HarleyLady27; dragnet2

Do you really, honestly think that Trump as president could perform these mass deportations? Look I want what you want.....but do you really think he can round all of ‘em and only let the “great ones” back in?


241 posted on 12/01/2015 2:15:47 PM PST by mosley
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To: deport

Thank you for that information....;>)


242 posted on 12/01/2015 2:16:12 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz does have at least a half dozen big interest backers who have him on speed dial. He’s walking a tight rope on this issue.


243 posted on 12/01/2015 2:16:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: JediJones; entropy12
Who knows what the strings were? Maybe the donor is anti-amnesty, pro-life, anti-same-sex-marriage, wants originalists on the court.

Yes, I believe he is anti illegal immigration.

244 posted on 12/01/2015 2:18:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: mosley

Once they see that Trump is going to be the POTUS and knowing what they have heard him say....they will deport, the rest, ICE and whoever he appoints will gather up the rest, meantime, the wall will be going up, and the jobs the illegal immigrants held, will be given back to the American people to start working and making money, meanwhile, he will be working on the Iran deal, that never was, and getting our manufacturing jobs back for OUR people to work at....that’s just his first week in office.....


245 posted on 12/01/2015 2:18:43 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: kygolfman; dragnet2; Georgia Girl 2

And NO path to citizenship for any illegal immigrant!


246 posted on 12/01/2015 2:20:44 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: ConservativeMind
Cruz's written plan says full enforcement through deportations and returns.

From your link:


247 posted on 12/01/2015 2:21:54 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Besides Mercer, other Billionaire guys pulling Cruz’s strings from afar are Darin Deason and Kelcy Warren.

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” “Cruz trumpeted the new donors at a press conference in Houston, ...

The big fish is Darwin Deason, a billionaire who along with Kelcy Warren donated $11 million to pro-Perry outside groups. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366423/posts?page=114#114


248 posted on 12/01/2015 2:22:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: mosley

It’s what is needed and it can be done. Absolutely. It will take time, but it will never occur until we do it.

Lemme tell ya something, the SOB’s running this government will never forgive you for anything. Zip. Hopefully those who’ve left America all but dead on the floor with their reckless country killing leadership, lawless borders and policies will be held responsible and get exactly the same. Just like they’d do to you and me.


249 posted on 12/01/2015 2:23:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: HarleyLady27

I get it now mam....I really thought you were serious, at first. Farce....I get now.


250 posted on 12/01/2015 2:24:59 PM PST by mosley
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To: deport
The second part of which was a HORRID hit piece !
251 posted on 12/01/2015 2:25:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dragnet2

Yes....I see you and Donald....will pick the “great ones” that get to come back!


252 posted on 12/01/2015 2:26:35 PM PST by mosley
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To: mosley

Btw, do you know how Rafael Edward Cruz defines amnesty?


253 posted on 12/01/2015 2:26:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mosley

Oh don’t think for one minute that I’m for anyone but Trump...I have been 100% supporter of Trump since he announced in Trump Towers, and everyone on this board knows that...

I am one of many Trump Fighters and will do whatever to show how right Trump is to be our next President!!!

You need to study a lot more about the people here and where they stand before making a comment like that!!!


254 posted on 12/01/2015 2:28:01 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Been here a long time mam....that’s some of the best parody thus far....you really had me going...


255 posted on 12/01/2015 2:30:06 PM PST by mosley
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To: dragnet2

Tell this person who I’m for...and always have been for.....


256 posted on 12/01/2015 2:31:23 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: FreeReign

I read that number right here on FR yesterday from a reliable poster. I have no reason to doubt that poster.


257 posted on 12/01/2015 2:33:35 PM PST by entropy12
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To: mosley

Btw, since you’ve been here a long time, do you know how Rafael Edward Cruz defines amnesty? If not, why is he refusing to tell us?


258 posted on 12/01/2015 2:34:29 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red Steel

Cruz does have at least a half dozen big interest backers who have him on speed dial. He’s walking a tight rope on this issue.


Likely getting a pass. I wouldn’t doubt if the recent W Bush comment actually wasn’t Cruz calling a chip in....since the country/conservatives overwhelmingly don’t want ANYTHING to do with anything Bush. (Just my thoughts on that.)


259 posted on 12/01/2015 2:36:03 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: HarleyLady27; mosley

Your history here speaks for itself regarding Trump.

The long time poster mosley, is free to look it up.


260 posted on 12/01/2015 2:36:32 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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