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Hillary: Muslims 'Have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With Terrorism'
Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2015 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/20/2015 7:53:04 AM PST by Kaslin

Behold, the woman who shall soon be crowned Queen of the endlessly self-righteous and self-congratulatory "Reality Based Community:"

"Let's be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism." Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) November 19, 2015


This is pure claptrap. Everyone understands that the West is not at war with Islam broadly, and that an overwhelming percentage of Muslims reject violent extremism.  It's been beaten into our heads by politicians of all stripes since 9/11, and we're generally bright enough to draw the relevant distinction: "These Muslims over here are just peaceful, faithful people living their lives, whereas those Muslims over there are radical and seek to impose a toxic strain of their faith via terror and violence. We have no quarrel with the former group, which thankfully represents the large majority; the latter group must be confronted and defeated."  This dynamic isn't hard.  It can be quickly and easily explained, yet we are constantly bombarded with dumb, sanitized denialism like Hillary's second sentence above. Instead of treating us like adults, we're infantilized.  And to what end?  Muslims are peaceful and tolerant, we're instructed, and they have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.  This last bit is insultingly preposterous.  Some Muslims have quite a lot to do with terrorism, actually.  Like the ones who were led by their hardcore theology to kill 3,000 people on 9/11.  Or blow up trains in Spain.  Or target London's public transit system with bombs.  Or slaughter students at a Kenyan university.  Or Devastate a nightclub in Indonesia.  Or shoot up a shopping mall in Nairobi.  Or lay siege to a hotel in Mumbai.  Or terrorize Nigerian schoolgirls. Or, you know, take hostages in Mali. I could go on for some time.  But those aren't real Muslims, our Thought Leaders inform us.  Islamists loudly beg to differ -- and wouldn't they know a lot more about their motives and religious teachings than Western purveyors of bumper sticker feel-goodery? Try this: Ask someone who's convinced jihadists shouldn't be considered Muslims whether or not Osama bin Laden's corpse should have been discarded with no regard for Islamic traditions.  Or whether the terrorists at Gitmo should be deprived of prayer mats, or Halal meals, or Korans.  Maybe some enterprising reporter will ask Hillary these questions someday.  In any case, the "nothing to do with terrorism" line is plainly nonsense.  The more difficult part is the "peaceful and tolerant" phrase.  It's absolutely true that a huge preponderance of Muslims worldwide abhor and reject religious violence.  But as I explored in a piece after the Charlie Hebdo massacre, there is a worrisomely sizable strain of abject illiberalism that runs through mainstream Islam. Data from Pew, a respected global pollster, gathered two years ago:


Shall we count the 86 percent of Egyptian Muslims, or 62 percent of Malaysian Muslims, or the 17 percent of Turkish Muslims who believe leaving Islam is punishable by death among the "tolerant"?  Do the millions of Muslims who express support for suicide bombings against civilians "in defense of Islam" qualify as "peaceful"?   Or mustn't we ask such questions when there's a vapid slogan to be spouted, or a politically-correct tweet to be disseminated?   The concern, of course, is that leaders who are unable or unwilling to comprehend and properly identify a threat will be ineffective in neutralizing it.  Hillary's defenders will say that President Bush also refrained from directly naming the enemy.  True, but the current administration of which Mrs. Clinton was a part has taken euphemism-deployment to another level.  More disconcerting is the increasing evidence that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have no earthy idea how to achieve victory over threats that gravely imperil America and her interests.  Consider this anti-ISIS  "plan" touted by Clinton's campaign chairman:

Hillary's strategy to defeat Isis: ?Defeat Isis in Syria & Iraq ?Disrupt & dismantle terrorist infrastructure ?Harden our defenses John Podesta (@johnpodesta) November 19, 2015


Step one in Hillary's plan to defeat ISIS is: "Defeat ISIS." It's even got a check mark next to it. Say, what would happen if ISIS launched a successful terrorist attack on US soil, as they clearly want and intend to do? Would she deploy American forces to fight them on the ground in Iraq and Syria (just where her "plan" calls for them to be "defeated")?  Apparently not:

Hillary Clinton: "A Mistake" to Send Troops if ISIS Attacks U.S. Homeland


So even if ISIS infiltrated the United States and carried off a sophisticated, deadly attack, it would be a "mistake" to send American soldiers to go fight them.  This from the woman who voted yes on Afghanistan and Iraq.  If that's the case, at what point and for what reason would "boots on the ground" be justified, anywhere in the world?  Her political answer, for the moment, appears to be 'never.'  She does have a Democratic primary to win, after all, and the electorate is still war weary (although less so than she may suspect; our would-be Commander in Chief's answer may change once she sees more polling).  But wait, didn't she just endorse American boots on the ground against ISIS, in an abrupt about-face from her recently-stated opposition?  Why yes, she did -- when Obama left her no choice.  To recap, this woman -- whose plan to defeat ISIS entails "defeating ISIS" -- is against boots on the ground to, uh, defeat ISIS, even in response to a catastrophic terrorist attack in America.  Except actually she's for some boots on the ground, just not a lot of them, even though she was against those, too, just a little while ago.  And what she really wants you to know is that Muslims had "nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism." I'm Hillary Clinton. I engineered Obama's foreign policy. Now make me president.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: barack0bama; foreignpolicy; hillaryclinton; isis; islam; islamicextremists; politicalcorrectness
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To: Kaslin

This obese, talentless, ignorant, incompetent, alcoholic, woman-hating, dishonest, shrew-like, degenerate, criminal. chronic loser, criminal just won’t go away.


61 posted on 11/20/2015 9:28:52 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe someone should ask the moozlum terrorists who murdered tourists in a hotel earlier today in Mali? All moozlums want yoyu and your family murdered...some will directly murder you.


62 posted on 11/20/2015 9:30:39 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe someone should ask the moozlum terrorists who murdered tourists in a hotel earlier today in Mali? All moozlums want you and your family murdered...some will directly murder you.


63 posted on 11/20/2015 9:30:50 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 1Old Pro
Hillary HAS FORGOTTEN!


64 posted on 11/20/2015 9:32:56 AM PST by caww
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To: Kaslin





65 posted on 11/20/2015 9:34:33 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

ALL Muslims are the enemy. That’s what their faith is ABOUT. If they aren’t currently trying to kill you, its because they don’t feel they have the appropriate opportunity yet.

Islam is simple. Sophisticated people can’t get their heads around how simple it is. Mohammed appealed to the lowest seventh of the human race - a billion people - and got them. You want to understand them, you have to think like them. To think like them, just listen to them and watch what they do. You hear all that crazy sh!t? You see all that crazy sh!t?

That’s it. That’s what they believe.

They use your sophistication against you. You know what the “first female suicide bomber in Europe” yelled to the cops before she blew herself up? “Help me, help me!” and “I’m not his girlfriend!” to lure the police into her blast radius.

Remember that, the next time you’re dealing with a “polite” Muslim.


66 posted on 11/20/2015 9:45:11 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

Adding to the list, never forget the Beslan school massacre, where over 1000 were held hostage by muslim terrorists and nearly 400 murdered.


67 posted on 11/20/2015 9:47:17 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

I KNEW IT. Pygmies. Its’ been the Pygmies all along.

DAMN YOU PYGMIES !!!!!!!

:-)


68 posted on 11/20/2015 9:50:19 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Talisker
They are not refugees and never should be called as such. They are invaders on Hijrah, (Stealth Jihad by Immigration) to fulfill the "duty" of all Muslims to turn a country Islamic, additionally and basically unreported they have been called up by their Imams all over the world to go on Hijrah...with the promise they get extra points in paradise for doing so.

Furthermore....These illegal invaders do not belong to the most helpless, desperate and vulnerable section of the masses in their home countries A Merkle and other Global Leaders are promoting..... rather, they are predominantly from the well-off section of the society, people who can arrange for tens of thousands of dollars to pay the illegal human-smugglers and finance other costs on their route into Europe.....

People who can arrange that kind of money in those countries are considered well-off, and certainly not the poorest and most desperate........these vast majority of the well-off masses from the Muslim countries are willing to risk tens of thousands of dollars for the good life in Europe and other Western countries....and to avoid fighting for their own countries....they are given the choice to fight in war OR IMMIGRATE under Hijrah"....and the reason the majority coming in are young males who given the choice of a good life in Europe or America would be happy to do so....

Once settled you will find them in malls and various other public places using Jesus as bait to lure people into their web....this is what they are here for...the Islamification of their host country

And or protesting in the streets as here in London...


69 posted on 11/20/2015 9:56:14 AM PST by caww
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To: Talisker
Did you ever hear of Dr.M. Zuhdi Jasser?

Here is his biography

M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. is the Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD). A devout Muslim, Dr. Jasser founded AIFD in the wake of the 9/11 attacks on the United States as an effort to provide an American Muslim voice advocating for the preservation of the founding principles of the United States Constitution, liberty and freedom, and the separation of mosque and state. Dr. Jasser is a first generation American Muslim whose parents fled the oppressive Baath regime of Syria in the mid-1960's for American freedom. He is leading the fight to shake the hold that the Muslim Brotherhood and their network of American Islamist organizations and mosques have on organized Islam in America.

Dr. Jasser earned his medical degree on a U.S. Navy scholarship at the Medical College of Wisconsin in 1992. He served 11 years as a medical officer in the U. S. Navy. His tours of duty included Medical Department Head aboard the U.S.S. El Paso which deployed to Somalia during Operation Restore Hope; Chief Resident at Bethesda Naval Hospital; and Staff Internist for the Office of the Attending Physician to the U. S. Congress. He is a recipient of the Meritorious Service Medal. Dr. Jasser is a respected physician currently in private practice in Phoenix, Arizona specializing in internal medicine and nuclear cardiology. He is a Past-President of the Arizona Medical Association.

More Here

He is one of the good Muslims

70 posted on 11/20/2015 10:36:55 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
He is one of the good Muslims

He's a good AMERICAN. However there are over a billion Muslims, as well as the Koran itself, that would say he's no longer a Muslim, and that he should be killed for apostasy. And that's not hyperbole - they MEAN it.

See, that's the problem. Terrorists haven't hijacked Islam - Islam TEACHES terrorism. I had another FReeper talk about "good" and "bad" Muslims to me, defining the "bad" ones as the ones who FOLLOWED what Islam teaches!

This is crazy talk. This is DENIAL. And it's getting a lot of people killed, with more to come. Islam and the Left - Hillary and Obama (as usual) Exhibit A - desperately need people to violate their own intelligence by denying Islam itself as terrorism. But Islam IS terrorism, it's that simple, by its OWN teachings. Accepting that makes everything fall into place - starting with who the enemy really is, and what to do about them. What we really need is Congress to define Islam as a terroristic governmental system at war with the United States, deny it religious standing, and for those reasons, banning Muslims from this country and denying any business relations with Muslim states or companies.

That's not an option - that's what it will eventually take. The only question is how many people have to die before that it accepted.

Denial is death.

71 posted on 11/20/2015 11:03:10 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

If she actually said this, we should all send her a thank you card. She just handed the right the WH, if we can manage not to screw it up.


72 posted on 11/20/2015 11:06:27 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Kaslin

Straight from Huma’s lips, right?


73 posted on 11/20/2015 11:36:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.cracked.com/blog/isis-wants-us-to-invade-7-facts-revealed-by-their-magazine/


74 posted on 11/20/2015 11:37:49 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: r_barton

Go read the book “SJWs Always Lie” by Vox Day. Look for it on Amazon.


75 posted on 11/20/2015 11:38:16 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: austingirl


- is "often confused" and needs plenty of guidance to understand the schedule
longtime aide - Human Abedin



76 posted on 11/20/2015 11:47:29 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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To: Kaslin

Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism.

Tea Partiers do!


77 posted on 11/20/2015 12:05:25 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Stand Watch Listen

The stuff of nightmares.


78 posted on 11/20/2015 6:51:39 PM PST by austingirl
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To: Kaslin

I KNEW it! All this time it’s been the Amish!


79 posted on 12/16/2015 12:25:41 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: Tzimisce

I’m betting every Hillary voter would vehemently agree with her just because she said it.

Meanwhile, in the sane world, people have “WTF?” bubbles all around their heads.


80 posted on 12/16/2015 12:34:03 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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