.40 still too much for the girls and girlymen in the bureau now days?They’re buying Lugers?
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The ballistics of .40 are awesome, but sold out pistol and ammo some time back due to envisioned scarcity of ammo. In a crunch, 9mm, .45 and .22 will be available through barter, etc., but finding .40 will be tough. Have told people this for years (just like everything else). Oh well...
Never been a big fan of the .40 but if I could get one through the CMP....
.40 still too much for the girls and girlymen in the bureau now days?Maybe sell them to ISIS or drug gangs. that seems to be the trend these days.
I'm sure Barry would love to break Bubba's record. The problem is, there just aren't that many mothballed military firearms left to destroy. The "newer" ones are probably M-16s, which are generally disposed of by donations to Mexican military/cartels, ISIS, etc.
I wonder how many 1911s, Garands, 1903s and M1 Carbines have been placed in the hands of the public by DCM/CMP over the years?
The .45 ACP was designed to stop drugged up Muslims in their tracks. Seems like the right choice now.
The .40 is over-pressured, inaccurate, and a solution to a problem that never really existed.
9mm and 45 auto have always been more than capable of doing their job, if the shooter does theirs (hit the vitals).
The article assumes the .40s will be surplused but I dont see any govt generated docs saying that’ll be the case. The only documentation is they want 9s. Why is anyones guess because the GSA contract is only a solicitation. Anyone *know* why the FBI wants 9s and whether they’ll be replacing existing .40s?
No, they’re going to hand them over to BATFE to get rid of them over them over the border.
After this fight, which clearly demonstrated the inadequacy of the 9mm against tough suspects, the Bureau went to 10mm and then .40 to improve their penetrating and stopping power.
Guess that in Obama's FBI, the suspects have gotten smaller or maybe they just want to give them a better chance.
For what it’s worth, a gun store that used to be near me (it’s probably gone by now) used to display a revolver that had been decommissioned. According to the story, the government just threw a bunch of these guns onto an airport runway and then drove over them with a steamroller.
The resulting flat gun was actually pretty cool. I tried to buy it off the owner, but he wasn’t selling.
Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna, Georgia has a couple of display cases FILLED with nothing but police trade-in worn out Glocks in 40 caliber.
The most cost effective solution may be to re-barrel the 40s with 9 mm conversion barrels which are widely available and cost < $100. They may or may not need to replace the magazines as well depending on the specific gun model.
The gun sellers already seem to be well stocked with .40 LEO trade ins.
So the Clintons kept Smith & Wesson in business and making money.
Obama is doing an even better job.
First and foremost, *why* are they giving up on Glocks in favor of 9mm?
Several possibilities:
1) Reliability/serviceability problems.
2) Too heavy or bulky for many female agents.
3) The US Army was made to give up its .45 ACP because the NATO standard was 9mm. But with the Gulf Wars, 9mm was found to be insufficient. But this leads to the question, is this some effort to achieve *international* standardization?
4) Other reasons, whatever they are.
***The destruction likely occurred at Anniston Army Depot.***
In the olden days such items were considered to be Public Property, and when no longer needed sold at auction to the Public. Even the rifles of the Lewis and Clark expedition were sold at public auction upon their return from exploring the North West Louisiana Purchase.
Now days, public property gets a meeting with a machine known as CAPTAIN CRUNCH. if you remember, when it was found M-1 Garands were being destroyed it caused an outcry so they started selling them back to the PUBLIC through the CMP.
Didn’t the Feds contract for an outlandish amount of .40 caliber ammunition within the last couple years? What will they do with that?