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Carson edges Trump in national poll
The Hill ^ | 10/27/15 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 10/27/2015 4:59:47 AM PDT by jimbo123

Ben Carson has edged out fellow GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump in a new national poll, taking the top spot from the real estate mogul for the first time in months.

Carson is supported by 26 percent of GOP primary voters, followed by Trump at 22 percent, according to the CBS News/New York Times poll released early Tuesday. All other candidates follow in the single digits, with Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) at 8 percent and businesswoman Carly Fiorina and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 7 percent each.

The poll represents growing momentum for Carson, who surpassed Trump in several polls in the early voting state of Iowa over the past week ahead of the next GOP debate on Wednesday.

"Ben Carson is now doing well," Trump acknowledged on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" after the poll came out, adding that he believed Carson would see more scrutiny as a front-runner.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carson; crazynegro; elections; gentleben; hammertime; lowenergy; lowenergypoll; polls; trump
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To: jimbo123
"margin of error of 6 points."

I guess this means Paul, Cruz, Huckabee & Kasich could actually have (-2%)

41 posted on 10/27/2015 5:26:51 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: jimbo123

This too shall pass. We went through this in 2008 and 2012 with several different candidates leading the polls at various times.


42 posted on 10/27/2015 5:27:59 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

IDK, lets ask jeb bush.


43 posted on 10/27/2015 5:28:14 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Bogus poll. Wishful thinking and attempt to manipulate by pollsters.

Exact.

44 posted on 10/27/2015 5:29:11 AM PDT by inkfarmer
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To: circlecity
Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.

I don't see Carson being any better. In fact I'd pick Trump over him any day.

45 posted on 10/27/2015 5:29:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dforest

Articles says “575 GOP primary voters”


46 posted on 10/27/2015 5:29:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: erkelly

This early in the election (remember, the FIRST primaries aren’t for another three months), the size of Trump’s rallies is more an indicator of the fervency of his supporters—and of his celebrity status—than of where he stands in the polls.


47 posted on 10/27/2015 5:29:30 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: jimbo123

LOL, CBS, home of the faked documents peddled by Dan Rather in 2004, plus the left wing New York Slimes.

WHO wouldn’t question THAT polling?

Oh please, my ribs!


48 posted on 10/27/2015 5:30:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: Helicondelta
The moe is 6%. Useless poll.

In any given poll, yes, but quite a few polls taken in the past week have movement toward Carson. This one is not an outlier.

If this is your analysis of this particular poll, then to be consistent, you'd have to dismiss previous polls which had Trump up over Carson by 6 or more.

49 posted on 10/27/2015 5:30:58 AM PDT by randita
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To: nclaurel

“Bill and Hillary are said to have high intelligence and can certainly talk but I don’t want either. “

Yup. If that’s the criteria, Cruz should be dominating. I have no clue why he’s not doing better.

Hitler also had those attributes-it’s WHAT they talk about that matters. Carson talks about amnesty. That’s a deal-breaker for me.


50 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:32 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: circlecity; Jim Robinson

It is less than 600 voters nationwide for a national poll? That’s ridiculous. It’s ‘registered voters’. That’s ridiculous.

It has a margin of error of 7%! That’s beyond ridiculous all the way to totally unprofessional.

They used census figures to weight it to the ‘adult’ US population? Even that’s ridiculous since the census includes democrats, republicans, independents, communists, Nazis, and every other “ism” you can think of.

It needs to be weighted to a REPUBLICAN poll determining the age, sex, religion, etc. of REPUBLICAN likely voters.

And even in this idiotic poll, 26-22, the margin of error says that Trump could be leading this by 28-19, what most national polls with any kind of legitimate sample size are getting.

Finally, in our era ‘landline/cell phone’ is not good enough. I intentionally have only a cell phone, and I intentionally will not answer any call that doesn’t have the name already in my address book so that the name pops up. If they don’t leave a message, or if they leave a message I’m not interested in, then I don’t get back with them.

They have discovered how easy it is to manipulate polls against Trump by manipulating female and evangelical numbers.


51 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:44 AM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: circlecity; Jim Robinson

It is less than 600 voters nationwide for a national poll? That’s ridiculous. It’s ‘registered voters’. That’s ridiculous.

It has a margin of error of 7%! That’s beyond ridiculous all the way to totally unprofessional.

They used census figures to weight it to the ‘adult’ US population? Even that’s ridiculous since the census includes democrats, republicans, independents, communists, Nazis, and every other “ism” you can think of.

It needs to be weighted to a REPUBLICAN poll determining the age, sex, religion, etc. of REPUBLICAN likely voters.

And even in this idiotic poll, 26-22, the margin of error says that Trump could be leading this by 28-19, what most national polls with any kind of legitimate sample size are getting.

Finally, in our era ‘landline/cell phone’ is not good enough. I intentionally have only a cell phone, and I intentionally will not answer any call that doesn’t have the name already in my address book so that the name pops up. If they don’t leave a message, or if they leave a message I’m not interested in, then I don’t get back with them.

They have discovered how easy it is to manipulate polls against Trump by manipulating female and evangelical numbers.


52 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:51 AM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
How do you know all the polls showing Trump leading weren’t bogus?

Take a good look at the massive crowds and support that Trump generates everywhere he goes, and ask that question again.
53 posted on 10/27/2015 5:32:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: jimbo123

Sorry, not dice. Carson doesn’t have the same qualities of passion and fight that drew people to Trump. There’s no logical explanation or scenario that sustains the illusion of the transition of support. So...BS!


54 posted on 10/27/2015 5:33:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: CottonBall

—— I have no clue why he’s not doing better-—

it is quite simple

he is too conservative for the mass of conservatives making the selection for the primary


55 posted on 10/27/2015 5:33:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: jimbo123

Trump...Carson

Both of them are not politicians. That is most telling.

While others may guffaw at Trump “falling” in the polls, this is an indictment of establishment politicians in general.

Unfortunately, Ted Cruz is considered an establishment politician as evidenced by these polls.


56 posted on 10/27/2015 5:33:59 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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To: bert
Carson will devour the lame brained hillary and spit out pieces of her scripted message
it is unwise to overlook the fact that Dr Ben has the finest intellect and control of the language of any candidate in modern memory
he will take any progressive utterance and use it to destroy her
she will not know she has been stabbed with his supersharp stiletto mind until the moment she dies


And failing that, Carson could always literally stab her like he did to that unlucky soul during his teenage years! w00t!!
57 posted on 10/27/2015 5:34:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: jimbo123

I just noticed that the Today show is megaphoning this poll as if it came down from on high. I am sure they won’t be alone.


58 posted on 10/27/2015 5:34:38 AM PDT by odawg
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To: relictele

what is the problem with it?


59 posted on 10/27/2015 5:35:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I heard Carson is running a lot of ads, especially in Iowa. Is Trump running ads? If not, he should.


60 posted on 10/27/2015 5:35:10 AM PDT by Proudcongal
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