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‘Sanctuary cities’ divide GOP (Jeff Flake, Mike Lee, Dean Heller attempting to derail bill)
The Hill ^ | 10/11/15 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 10/11/2015 10:58:56 AM PDT by jimbo123

A battle over “sanctuary cities” is dividing Senate Republicans.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has teed up legislation that would crack down on cities that don't comply with federal immigration law.

But its unclear whether the bill can get through the Senate — and not just because of opposition from Democrats.

In addition to limiting federal money for sanctuary cities, Sen. David Vitter's (R-La.) bill would increase the amount of prison time an undocumented immigrant could serve if they re-enter the United States after having previously been deported. Conservatives like his plan, but it has drawn opposition from Sens. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) and Mike Lee (Utah.), who have concerns about broadly applying mandatory minimum sentences for undocumented immigrants.

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Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nevada) wants to link Vitter’s bill to immigration reform.

“We haven't had a discussion here for two years. For two years we haven't had a discussion and so all the sudden we're going to bring up an immigration issue and not talk about the bigger issue,” Heller said.

The Nevada Republican didn't detail what would be included in his proposal, instead describing it as "comprehensive immigration reform."

Heller added that he hasn't decided whether he’ll back Vitter’s bill if he can’t get his own amendment attached.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Kentucky; US: Louisiana; US: Nevada; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestypimps; arizona; davidvitter; deanheller; gope; jeffflake; jordaincarney; kathrynsteinle; kentucky; louisiana; mikelee; mitchmcconnell; nevada; rinos; sanctuarycities; utah
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The sanctuary city bill should a stand along and then the Kate’s law a stand alone. They should not be lumped together.

Absolutely, thanks for saying it.

41 posted on 10/11/2015 6:18:31 PM PDT by W.P. Wily
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To: vette6387

I didn’t know that. That is helpful info TNX!!


42 posted on 10/11/2015 6:19:29 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

“I didn’t know that. That is helpful info TNX!!”

Well, how about this! The Mormon Church is the fastest growing church in Mexico! Sad to say, I was born into Mormonism, but I have been over it for nearly 50 years. My maternal grandparents had a large home in Provo, Utah. They rented half of it to another family and the upstairs to BYU students. When my mother died at 93 I had to bury her in Utah. I took her younger sister to dinner and then we decided to drive by the her family home. What we found out (largely because I speak Spanish) that that building now houses five, that’s FIVE Mexican families! The Mormon Church is as bad, as the Catholics when it comes to subverting our immigration laws as they bring newly converted Mexican Mormons into Utah! We are lucky Romney lost!


43 posted on 10/11/2015 6:28:06 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Wonderful testimony on the Mormons. I like the Mormon value system. I love their family strength and morales and then they spiral off into oblivion on Joesph Smith who was in it for the girls.
I will tell you,( and you will disagree) that all Mormons are saved in Christ because they accept Him as the Son of God , Which is all it takes for salvation ( John 3:16) .


44 posted on 10/11/2015 6:35:27 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE
Uh oh.....now you've done it. You've gone and opened up that Mormon can of worms.

Be prepared and take cover.

45 posted on 10/11/2015 6:49:04 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Cruzin' with Cruz!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

H1B visas are indentured servitude.

This nation has record unemployment and you want to import someone to take the entry level developer jobs that should go to recent STEM graduates.

ALL ABOARD THE CHEAP LABOR EXPRESS CHOO CHOO! DEMOCRATS DOMINATING EVERY BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT CHOO CHOO!


46 posted on 10/12/2015 5:49:48 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat
This nation has record unemployment and you want to import someone to take the entry level developer jobs that should go to recent STEM graduates.

News flash: I wasn't talking about entry-level developer jobs. I said experienced developers. Ask any IT manager in Texas. We don't have experienced, knowledgeable candidates beating down our doors. We have to hunt them.

But, since you mentioned it, recent STEM graduates aren't owed jobs. That's libtard reasoning and is, frankly, exactly what is wrong with the vast majority of American graduates. They feel entitled. They want to work bankers hours for big money. They want promotions that haven't been earned.

Sorry, Charlie. I worked my @ss off to get where I am. My success depends on having the right people to get the job done. You want to work me? You will work your @ss off. I don't give handouts. I do give opportunities. What you do with it is your choice.

47 posted on 10/12/2015 8:55:56 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that 1break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

You advocated importing cheap labor to drive wages down for STEM.

I think it would be a better idea to import a H1B visa to take your job at half the cost to your employer or clients. It would save them money, right? And they wouldn’t have to worry about you leaving for some other project since it would be an indentured servant.

Your laments about hunting people (cry me a river) is because you cannot find someone willing to work for what you are offering.

NEWSFLASH: Quit whining and raise the pay rate. Pay for relocation for qualified candidates outside your state if you can’t allow telecommute. Each time I moved states, the hiring company compensated with relocation costs. And if I switched jobs, the new company bought out the relocation clause from the prior company!

You just don’t want to hire Americans. You want to hire cheap indentured servants like it’s 1732 or something.


48 posted on 10/12/2015 12:27:41 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat
You advocated importing cheap labor to drive wages down for STEM.

No, I did not. I didn't imply it, hint at it, or even suggest it. That allegation is totally false.

49 posted on 10/12/2015 4:55:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that 1break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Read Write Repeat
Your laments about hunting people (cry me a river) is because you cannot find someone willing to work for what you are offering.

No, I very clearly said that we cannot find enough experienced job applicants with the skills we need. Your little rant about what they're being offered is a strawman.

NEWSFLASH: Quit whining and raise the pay rate. Pay for relocation for qualified candidates outside your state if you can’t allow telecommute.

You manufacturered a non-issue, genius. Texas IT jobs generally pay very well and most major companies here do offer relocation services. You think you know what the issue is, but you don't.

You just don’t want to hire Americans. You want to hire cheap indentured servants like it’s 1732 or something.

Now you're just having paranoid delusions. Take your meds so the voices will stop confusing you.

50 posted on 10/12/2015 7:47:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that 1break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Read Write Repeat
Your laments about hunting people (cry me a river) is because you cannot find someone willing to work for what you are offering.

No, I very clearly said that we cannot find enough experienced job applicants with the skills we need. The topic of pay & benefits doesn't come up until we find qualified applicants, genius.

NEWSFLASH: Quit whining and raise the pay rate. Pay for relocation for qualified candidates outside your state if you can’t allow telecommute.

Straw-man argument. Texas IT jobs generally pay very well and most major companies here do offer relocation services. You think you know what the issue is, but you don't.

You just don’t want to hire Americans. You want to hire cheap indentured servants like it’s 1732 or something.

Now you're just having paranoid delusions. Take your meds so the voices will stop confusing you.

Every IT manager I know would prefer to hire American citizens who are well qualified rather than deal with the headache-inducing paperwork for foreign citizens. And BTW, the HB1 employees with whom I have worked are paid handsomely for their skills. They aren't cheap labor, Darlin'. (Not in my industry anyway.)

51 posted on 10/12/2015 8:01:07 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No, I very clearly said that we cannot find enough experienced job applicants with the skills we need. Your little rant about what they're being offered is a straw man.

You admitted your company is terrible at hunting for candidates. If that's really the case, you're still doing it wrong especially if you refuse to compensate that experience they earned at another company. There are plenty of people all around this country who worked long years in IT and got laid off.

But instead, you'd prefer to replace the population of Plano, TX by importing people from a country with a caste system and where slavery still exists. This is what you want for America, and I highly disagree with your vision.

You'll be replaced soon.

52 posted on 10/14/2015 5:29:05 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat

You’re either dense or have an issue with reading comprehension. Compensation is not the issue. Experience is the issue.

Those people who worked long years in IT and were laid off have jobs here if they are any good at all. I have a job to do and a product to deliver. If I can find a qualified American, (s)he gets the job, period.

You clearly know absolutely nothing about IT jobs.


53 posted on 10/14/2015 6:33:14 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It’s not me with the comprehension problem. You keep referencing how you can’t “find” qualified Americans to justify your defense of H-1B visas and I repeatedly said you’re doing it wrong.

And I know plenty about hiring developers and how the H-1B visa program twists those who think small.


54 posted on 10/15/2015 12:41:27 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No, I very clearly said that we cannot find enough experienced job applicants with the skills we need.

120k and relo, and I'm yours.

55 posted on 10/20/2015 7:04:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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