Posted on 09/17/2015 4:50:57 AM PDT by Nextrush
As El Rushbo put it yesterday 'all guns' were 'trained on Trump' last night from the media onslaught to the candidates blasting him on the stage.
It was reminiscent of Clint Eastwood in "The Gauntlet" driving the bus through a torrent of bullets and emerging bloodied but still the hero and the winner.
The media in its virtual entirety had an agenda driven by its talking points before and after the debate, talking points coming obviously from one source, the Republican Establishment.
The spin was all about Carly Fiorina and how good she was going into the debate and how good she was in the debate, Carly could do no wrong.
And it wasn't just 'the liberal media' doing the talking points, it was the media we always thought were 'conservative' and on our side.
Rush Limbaugh always used to tell us about the Democrats and their talking points.
Turns out we now know the Republicans play the same game.
Back in 1930's Germany the infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels would have the Berlin newspaper editors and reporters from all the newspapers around Germany into the "Propaganda Ministry" to tell them what to report in their newspapers, creating a consistent and distorted message for millions of Germans.
Well here we are in 21st Century America and the Republican Party plays the same game.
In 1945, reporters goaded General George S. Patton into making a statement that created a firestorm and disciplinary action from General Eisenhower. Patton said that the Nazis were the same as "Democrats and Republicans". I guess Patton, who has been praised by Donald Trump, was onto something.
Alesksandr Solzhenitsyn warned Americans when he spoke to us about the dangers facing the West in the 1970's that while we thought we had a free media with many outlets the truth was there wasn't much difference between the way the Western media operated and the way media in the Soviet Union he came from operated. All the different media outlets said the same thing.
It looks like America needs some new media that doesn't replicate the distortions of the mainstream media for liberals and Democrats and the RINOstream media for the Republicans.
In the case of Donald Trump, its in the interests of all the various media outlets and the major political parties they serve to spread the Republican Establishment talking points about the 'great Carly Fiorina' to take Trump down.
At other times though, the RINOstream media from Fox News to talk show hosts to websites, posters on FR etc. etc. feed patriots a steady diet of deceit, exploiting our resentments and anger, making us think if we vote Republican we are making a better choice that involves a change in direction.
This is all dished up from the Republican Party Establishment and dumped on us to lap it up like dogs.
The same show plays out for voters on the Left in the MSM leading them to Democrats as the better choice.
But in the end both parties lead us down a pathway punctuated by more and more government spending and an ever increasing tax burden and debt burden on future generations.
The banking and business elites have bought both parties-the Uniparty and get what they want from cheap labor flow into the country, Obamacare to cut the employer side of healthcare costs, Common Core to train children for a world economic system without borders being enabled by special trade deals and the list goes on.
Needless to say, I'm not a "Fox Sucker" anymore. We need to find new media and new voices other than the ones deceiving us.
Do we even NEED these “debates” anymore? This was for a time when people didn’t have access to their candidates’ opinions, and now we have the mighty, mighty internet, and can practically see them from all sides. I just see it as pointless when the lib media sets the rules and tone, then they spin it and pick it apart.
Lol...smug look? She looked like she bit into a lemon. It was the same look one sees on a po’d ex you try to avoid like the plague.
Trump is way above the media and the audience as a “pick up artist” here:
https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/15/trump-as-political-pick-up-artist-the-do
The “Carly you’re beautiful” was a double neg in that Trump was being sarcastic but he knew it would be taken as sarcasm by the audience and Carly.
Carly “won” this ridiculous “debate” but she came off looking like Cruella DeVille with her plastered scowl facial expression. She may draw some of Jeb’s votes.
Mark Steyn described this “debate” perfectly:
A schoolyard tattle-tale(CNN)saying “Did you hear what so-and-so said about you?” “What are you going to do, slug him?” And then candidates would disappear for long stretches, gone from the screen so long that Ben Carson(or Ted Cruz)could have left the stage, won the Canadian election, and returned to the “debate” without being missed.
Paul, Huckabee, Walker, and Kasich need to call it a day and go home so the next “debate” might actually resemble one.
As for the Jeb News Channel, it’s dead to me.
“Alesksandr Solzhenitsyn warned Americans when he spoke to us about the dangers facing the West in the 1970’s that while we thought we had a free media with many outlets the truth was there wasn’t much difference between the way the Western media operated and the way media in the Soviet Union he came from operated. All the different media outlets said the same thing.”
Thanks for posting this. I wish everyone could realize that this is where we are right now and we need to stand against it or we’re done.
Trump hammered the 14th Amendment question and surprised everyone. He is right.
Pray America is waking
Well, if it was any consolation, the Fox morning hacks are in full RINO support, ass-licking mode this morning declaring Trump lost, Fiorina won, and Bush looked good.
First, I didn't watch: I read thread by thread Freepers' comments. So I think I have a good grasp of who did what. I wanted to see if that lined up with what people actually saw. So far, it does.
Second, everyone agrees Cruz was head and shoulders above everyone in terms of content and mastery of the issues from a Constitutional standpoint. It seems Rubio, Huckabee, Christie, and Fiorina had some very good moments. Trump's best sections, of course, were on immigration and on Jeb/Paul bashing. Carson agreed with him on the vaccines.
To me all that is irrelevant, because if I'm Trump's campaign manager---and it's still September---you still don't have the "world" watching and no great performance will save you and no bad performance will kill you. (Witness the rebirth of Rubio, whom I left for dead three months ago).
Instead, if I'm Trump's manager, I'm telling him, "Cement the idea of inevitability. Grow your lead." Now, some of you would say, "Well, if he didn't do great, how could he grow his lead?" Easy.
His ONLY close competitor was Ben Carson.
How did Gentle Ben do last night? Consensus seems to be he lost some ground, looked tired, non-energetic, not crisp in answers, not motivating, did well (obviously) on the vaccine question. Trump did not attack him, and even high fived him.
Watch Carson's poll numbers dip. Trump's will stay about the same. The number 2 competitor, and the only close competitor, falls back. Two of the dwarves (Rubio and Fiorina) will gain, maybe move to low double digits. Cruz will gain, likely to about 10% where I think he will plateau.
That is because unlike Rubio or Fiorina, the GOPe will NEVER back him as the "anti-Trump." So they will dump money and publicity into Rubio and Fiorina (my guess is that, unable to make a clear decision, they will dilute their efforts and both will hover at 10-15%).
Mission accomplished for Trump. He gets at least another month with double digit leads over #2 . . . whoever that is next.
> “All the different media outlets said the same thing.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_Kx7UKndI
Yes, we still need them. Not because they help with anything policy-related but because we get to see how well the candidates present themselves. Especially under fire. That sort of thing can swing elections.
In 1980 it was the single, and late, debate with Carter that pushed Reagan over the top and into the White House. I’m still convinced that George W Bush won in 2000 because Al Gore kept sighing and trying to physically intimidate Bush by encroaching on his space. Gore looked like an a****le, and Bush drove that home by throwing that stare and nod back at Gore.
Tokyo Rove was leg humpin iCarly on Faux News after the debate. That’s how desperate the Gelded Old Pansies are to take out Trump.
It would be a real kick-in-the-ass for the RNC if Trump wins those Democrat States and Bush does not get his 8 majorities. The rules will then be reinterpreted to get Bush into the Convention and then the fight begins. The RNC has control of a mass of Superdelegates that are not chosen in primaries and does not need to get a terribly large percentage of the primary delegates to put Bush over. Remember the goal is not to win any election, just the Nomination. If Bush is nominated with truly minority support he won't even have to take a dive in the election. He can feign actually contending.
She looked like she was about to cry.
Poor thing looks like she was botoxed to within an inch of her life.
I think folks are waking up. That is why the “anesthesiologists” are having a fit. LOL.
To those Trump fans in the beautiful state of New Hampshire, Donald has a Town Hall event tonight from 7-8PM Eastern. Not sure yet which network might cover the town hall, but sure there will be a live feed on line.
Sign up for tickets here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/donald-j-trump-new-hampshire-town-hall-tickets-18563405646
Good post.
It’s obvious all the media , all of the establishment are all together against Trump and against us the American citizens because Trump is fighting for who for Us , for America, the only one.
It should be obvious they are all one against us, Americans , American interests.
The nomination is Trumps to lose now.
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