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Civilian guards ordered to leave [recruiting station] after one accidentally fires rifle
Stars and Stripes ^ | 7/25/15 | Lane

Posted on 07/25/2015 6:44:42 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: Bryanw92

You write checks your assumptions cannot cash.

Plus put your life in the basis of bad training for the inexperienced and untrusted.

Your former Condition 3 training was borne of politics, not safety.

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21 posted on 07/25/2015 8:03:09 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

>>Your former Condition 3 training was borne of politics, not safety.

Explain the politics of my training in 1980 and how it had nothing to do with safety.


22 posted on 07/25/2015 8:08:17 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
The problem is that Hollywood gives most Americans their gun-handling knowledge. Even with real training, they drop back into the habits learned from a thousand action movies as soon as they leave the supervision of an instructor.

That is a sad commentary. My gun training started very early with my Dad, as I come from a generation when young boys wore holsters with cap guns and cowboy hats and boots.

23 posted on 07/25/2015 8:08:18 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: ClearCase_guy
I just wonder if some Obama supporter might have shown up with an AR-15 and pulled a good ol' boy routine:

"Why, shucks, fellas, it sure is good to be heah with y'all. Got to keep them A-rabs in line, y'know" [BAM!] "Well, gosh darn it, looks like I done fired mah assault rifle. Must be my magazine was too durn big. I surely hope they don't chase y'all away on account 'o me."

Though similar suspicions aren't my best (current!) guess about what happened there, they were quick to come to my mind.

24 posted on 07/25/2015 8:15:18 AM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: logi_cal869

Agreed.

Proper training and weapons discipline are the answer, not a policy that directly impacts the ability to respond to an imminent threat.

Sad that we are even having to discuss the weapons readiness posture of CIVILIANS who are volunteering their time to provide additional security at a MILITARY facility of any stripe...


25 posted on 07/25/2015 8:17:26 AM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: D Rider

Well, you knew this would be happening. And you can bet it will get ENORMOUS coverage every time.

Somewhere, a liberal is laughing. PLEASE don’t give them reason to do so!


26 posted on 07/25/2015 8:18:12 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What if the accidental discharge accidentally kills someone? Is it still okay?


27 posted on 07/25/2015 8:46:37 AM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Agreed.


28 posted on 07/25/2015 8:48:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; Bryanw92

My Marine Corps recruiting office was a tiny storefront right next to highly popular Bob’s Big Boy restaurant....brilliant strategy which likely made it easy for the guys to fill the quota - this was 1966.


29 posted on 07/25/2015 8:53:11 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: logi_cal869

I was an MP from 98 till 06 , and we always carried condition 2. with our M11 or when I was with CID the M9. this included state side when we pulled airport duty post 9 11. why on earth would someone carry on duty condition 3 is beyond me. should you need your weapon one handed you would be a screwed chicken having to chamber a round. The M11 or the older 1911 are both designed to be carried condition 1.The M11 adds double action for a safe condition 2 carry as well.


30 posted on 07/25/2015 8:53:12 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: Anoreth

Oh shut up. LOL!


31 posted on 07/25/2015 8:58:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: pabianice

“Accidentally” is a poor choice of words. “Negligently” would have been much more accurate and appropriate.

Idiot.


32 posted on 07/25/2015 9:01:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I figured it was a reasonable question, but if you’re going to be pointlessly rude about it then whatever.
Hopefully I’ll never happen to be on a range with you.


33 posted on 07/25/2015 9:03:20 AM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Nice succinct job summarizing the core idiocy involved.


34 posted on 07/25/2015 9:08:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mad_as_he$$

LMAO!!! Both my wife and I are laughing, I had the sound pretty high...


35 posted on 07/25/2015 9:13:46 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bryanw92

The problem is that Hollywood gives most Americans their gun-handling knowledge.
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You mean that one can’t take a CZ75, hold it sideways in your hand and accurately mow people down?

You mean that one cowboy (White Hat) on horseback with TWO sixguns ablazing can’t pick off the bad guys (Black Hat) firing at him on the ridge with rifles by pulling the trigger about 50 times each?

Whoda thunk.

I NEVER thought Superman could fly either.

Chris Rock had the ‘right idea’ years ago when he suggested the way to stop drivebys was to charge 500 bucks per bullet.

He said that way the shooter would ID his target and just shoot him, saving a ton of money and innocent people wouldn’t be mowed down with the excess shots as no one would be able to afford it.


36 posted on 07/25/2015 9:15:36 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~Aesop~")
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To: Anoreth

“Hopefully I’ll never happen to be on a range with you.”

Don’t worry about me. The only accidental discharges I’ve ever been involved in at the range were cops. If you actually shoot or ever go to a range you would know they are the worst.

I’ll repeat my first statement that I would much rather a couple of accidental discharges than wholesale slaughter of another recruitment office.

The public should not be forced to attempt to guard the military. Its insane. The military should be immediately armed from non com on up at every military facility.


37 posted on 07/25/2015 9:17:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

By ‘non com’ are you referring to NCOs or all enlisted members in general?


38 posted on 07/25/2015 9:25:41 AM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: pabianice

Others should come and replace them.


39 posted on 07/25/2015 9:32:25 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I just wonder if some Obama supporter might have shown up with an AR-15 and pulled a good ol' boy routine

oh, undoubtedly. This is the sort of thing they do ALL THE TIME and we don't.

For example, why doesn't anyone turn up at Dhimmicrap rallies with signs saying things like "NO LIVES MATTER"?

40 posted on 07/25/2015 9:33:58 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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