In the above post we see from Admiral Stockdale's own words how he ordered all POWs in the Hanoi Hilton to refuse any offers of early release. There is no doubt McCain was merely following orders when he refused an early release offer by the Communists. To his credit he obeyed the order but obeying orders does not translate to heroism, it translates to doing one's duty.
Ping!
That the MSM is scrambling to preserve McLame’s status/image as a “war hero” tells me pretty much everything I need to know.
Since when has anyone on the Left gone out of their way to protect a Republican, absent political considerations?
Right - because let’s just forget it took heroism to actually follow that order. Complex thought is really lacking on this board.
Not a McCain fan but “merely doing one’s duty” when doing that duty means enduring immense suffering, rather than taking the is a form of heroism.
Of course it might not be quite as heroic as avoiding service with 5 deferments.
Not a McCain fan but “merely doing one’s duty” when doing that duty means enduring immense suffering, rather than taking the easy way out is a form of heroism.
Of course it might not be quite as heroic as avoiding service with 5 deferments.
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John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's Youtube video (10:39 mins)
You are all relentless.
We get it. You think McCain is a bad guy. I was not, and was never a supporter of him for President.
But to go back to a time when he was being tortured, certainly injured, and questioning his actions is even low for the folks around here.
Sure Stockdale had given the order. And McCain followed it. Thats a sin?
And you all seem to know what was in McCain’s heart at the time.
Really, this is a low, even for Free Republic who pretend to be all for the Mil, but criticize McCain for following orders.
Do you realize that you just defamed every POW who was offered early release and turned it down?
Why am I not surprised?
Most of the media will not want Trump as a real candidate since he’s not a career politician and this is all they want. Anyone else who tries that isn’t a career politician gets slammed and mocked. Think about it: the liberal media is defending McCain. If that isn’t proof, nothing is.
My question is simple. Since his release from Hanoi just what has this hack done outside of living off the story of his internment. He has done more damage to this country in the years since then any other person I can think of. If there had been no capture just what could this crap wad have done. Certainly no Senate seat, no rich wife and as a country we would all be better off.
Please, can people on this site please stop trying to tear down McCain?? Seriously, someone gave him an order to not accept release?? So what! You think that makes any less the will it takes to refuse release after being mentally and physically abused and tortured?? Be serious.
I am disgusted by the behavior I am seeing here.
Thank the good Lord most of us will never have to endure the things that McCain did, and to sit here in our comfy chairs attempting to tear his actions down during that time is pathetic.
I do not agree with McCain on many political issues, but this attempt to tear him down on here is just rehashing the same crap that was being posted on Democratic Underground in 2008. Its reprehensible and disgusting.
I am not offended by Trump saying he doesn’t consider McCain a hero, and I think McCain’s statement of Trump stirring up the crazies was at the very least politically tone deaf and stupid, but to sit here and try to Bash Mr McCain’s service record, particularly while in captivity is abjectly repugnant.
You might try reading what Trump actually said rather than what state-controlled media says he said.
https://sharylattkisson.com/fact-check-the-washington-post-on-donald-trump-and-john-mccain/
Being a POW in Hanoi must have been a horrible experience.
The main reason McCain was shot down was because he is the son and grandson of Navy Admirals. Know a guy who was a USNA classmate of his. The surest way to graduate from the academy that year was to stay ahead of John McCain on the order of merit list. McCain was third from the bottom; and he was given extra consideration in flight school when student’s not named McCain would have been disqualified.
I honor and respect POW’S and what they endured. I do not condone what John McCain has done as a senator.
His heroism was the same as many others: he risked his life willingly by going to Vietnam. Unlike Trump.
He flew risky missions behind enemy lines, knowing being shot down would probably result in torture.
Once shot down, he endured. If he had been the coward so many here on FR are accusing him of being, he WOULD have taken an early release. But he did not, nor did he ask for permission to do so.
His cellmate & Medal of Honor winner, George Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfyGdG9llSE
What happened to the practice of escaping if you could ???
Why didn’t McCain leave when he could so that he could pass on to the US anything he might have learnt about the enemies movements, treatment of POWs etc and who was in there with him ???
staying in that case was not a brave thing to do, it was stupid..
if I was Denton or one of the others I would have urged him to go, even if it was just to reassure the families about the other men..
McCain didn’t help our side by staying there..
McLame and Kerry,
Two Viet Nam, “heros”?
Maybe not.
McKook is a tool. Any defamation of him or his “character” gets a pass from me.