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No real scientist believes in creation. 30 Ph.D. scientists help bust this old canard
Creation Ministries International ^ | July 16, 2015 | Gary Bates

Posted on 07/17/2015 8:09:17 AM PDT by fishtank

Myth: ‘No real scientist believes in creation’. 30 Ph.D. scientists help bust this old canard

by Gary Bates

Published: 16 July 2015 (GMT+10)

The myth that no real scientist believes in creation has probably been around longer than most reading this have been alive. It should have died a death a long time ago given the wealth of creation material produced by the various creation organizations and the qualified scientists who work for them, let alone the thousands of Bible-believing scientists who work in industry and universities around the world. But it’s a sound bite that the atheists like to use to discredit anyone who attempts to defend the biblical account of creation. Unfortunately, in the age of the Internet, where anyone can post anything at anytime, whether true or false, the myth has found new life. But this is actually a case of playing the man instead of the ball and avoiding the facts that blatantly reveal otherwise.

The real problem is that most Christians have never heard sound evidences or arguments defending Genesis creation and so they are often caught off guard by such ‘elephant hurling’. This is one of the reasons that CMI, in all of its offices around the world, primarily visits churches. Thanks to these visits, many Christians are made aware of, and have access to, the preponderance of creation information.

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Dr Raymond Damadian, who discovered the vital signal difference without which the life-saving MRI would not be possible.

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1 posted on 07/17/2015 8:09:17 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

“Science was not the work of western secularists

or even deists;

it was entirely the work of devout believers

in an active, conscious, creator God.”

— Rodney Stark

http://www.rodneystark.com/


2 posted on 07/17/2015 8:09:27 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

No real biologist think babies aren’t human.


3 posted on 07/17/2015 8:11:04 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: fishtank
‘No real scientist believes in creation’

And no True Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

4 posted on 07/17/2015 8:12:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: fishtank

There’s not ONE missing link - there’s million of ‘missing links’... In fact ALL the links are missing. That should be a tip off that ‘evolution’s’ not all it’s cracked up to be.


5 posted on 07/17/2015 8:19:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (They are not undocumented and they are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens. Lurkinnamloomin)
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To: fishtank

Thirty Ph.D.’s.

That’s all they could find—30?

Pathetic.


6 posted on 07/17/2015 8:33:45 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: fishtank

Which version of Creation? The article carefully doesn’t say.

There are lots of scientists who believe in some version. Not very many who believe the Young Earth variant.


7 posted on 07/17/2015 8:35:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: fishtank

Evolution is arrested; revolution is now in force.


8 posted on 07/17/2015 8:40:02 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: fishtank

If God is exceeds science and all you’re looking at is science, then you aren’t looking at everything, are you?


9 posted on 07/17/2015 8:40:13 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: fishtank

“Science was not the work of western secularists or even deists; it was entirely the work of devout believers in an active, conscious, creator God.”

Stark is correct, but many of those Christians were nonetheless NOT young-earth creationists. Consider Fr. Georges LeMaitre, who first theorized the Big Bang. Or Rev. Charles Darwin, whose interests were less Christian. Or Fr. Gregor Mendel.


10 posted on 07/17/2015 8:41:10 AM PDT by dangus
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To: fishtank
NO Real Scientists believe in Creation is true when you use PC definitions. Real Scientist are and only are scientists who do not believe in Creation. Al others are, at best, hobbiests.
11 posted on 07/17/2015 8:49:26 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: dangus

The Bible = Word of God gives not one hint, this earth is young. Peter says there are three heaven/earth ages. All souls were created at the same time, and all souls are given the opportunity to take this flesh journey. Evolution is from the devil who has already been judged and sentenced to death. He intends to take with him as many as will.


12 posted on 07/17/2015 8:49:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: fishtank
Ultimately science operates from the premise that everything is created by a omnipresent eternal rational reason...a theory of everything.. a formula..and algorithm...a function of logic... repeatable.... replicable in a computer model....so logical code....

so if we view our own mind as ultimately logical code running in a machine...if we believe we can create artificial intelligence...

And if you believe science fiction artificial self aware minds a self aware self directing algorithm( be it 2001s HAL, or Skynet, or Star Trek Mr.Data)

then why is it so hard to wrap your mind around the concept around the idea that omnipresent, out side of time, eternal theory of everything code, that algorithm. ....was /is big and vast enough to be self aware and self directing?

A concept of God for atheist....God is self aware logic and reason that logic code science looks for that creates the universe....if you believe you can create a self aware machine...software code... self aware logic... is that concept that far a stretch?

13 posted on 07/17/2015 8:51:08 AM PDT by tophat9000 (SCOTUS=Newspeak)
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To: fishtank
"most Christians have never heard sound evidences or arguments defending Genesis creation" beating a horse photo: Beating A Dead Horse Animation BeatingADeadHorseAni.gif True dat.
14 posted on 07/17/2015 8:54:35 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The title was sarcastic.


15 posted on 07/17/2015 9:06:36 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Arm_Bears

http://creation.com/creation-scientists

A more complete list in link above.

The article was only meant to profile 30 individuals in a particular book.

Scientists alive today* who accept the biblical account of creation

Note: Individuals on this list must possess a doctorate in a science-related field.

Dr Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
Dr E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
Dr James Allan, Geneticist
Dr Steve Austin, Geologist
Dr S.E. Aw, Biochemist
Dr Thomas Barnes, Physicist
Dr Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
Dr Don Batten, Plant physiologist, tropical fruit expert
Dr John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
Dr Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
Dr Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology
Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology
Dr Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist
Dr Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology
Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
Dr David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer
Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
Dr Robert W. Carter, Zoology (Marine Biology and Genetics)
Dr David Catchpoole, Plant Physiologist (read his testimony)
Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics
Dr Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
Dr Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering
Dr Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist
Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education
Dr John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
Dr Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist
Dr Bob Compton, DVM
Dr Ken Cumming, Biologist
Dr Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
Dr William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics
Dr Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering
Dr Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist
Dr Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
Dr Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist
Dr Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
Dr Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
Dr Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry
Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
Dr David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
Dr Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
Dr Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr Ted Driggers, Operations research
Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
Dr André Eggen, Geneticist
Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
Dr Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science
Dr Paul Giem, Medical Research
Dr Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
Dr Tim Gilmour, Electrical Engineer
Dr Duane Gish, Biochemist
Dr Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
Dr D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
Dr Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
Dr Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist
Dr Donald Hamann, Food Scientist
Dr Barry Harker, Philosopher
Dr Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics
Dr John Hartnett, Physicist and Cosmologist
Dr Mark Harwood, Satellite Communications
Dr Joe Havel, Botanist, Silviculturist, Ecophysiologist
Dr George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
Dr Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
Dr Harold R. Henry, Engineer
Dr Jonathan Henry, Astronomy
Dr Joseph Henson, Entomologist
Dr Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy
Dr Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
Dr Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
Dr Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
Dr Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
Dr George F. Howe, Botany
Dr Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist
Dr Russell Humphreys, Physicist
Dr James A. Huggins, Professor and Chair, Department of Biology
Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy
George T. Javor, Biochemistry
Dr Pierre Jerlström, Creationist Molecular Biologist
Dr Arthur Jones, Biology
Dr Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon
Dr Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist
Dr Felix Konotey-Ahulu, Physician, leading expert on sickle-cell anemia
Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology
Dr Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics
Dr Dean Kenyon, Biologist
Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology
Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry
Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science
Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry
Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering
Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science
Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering
Dr John W. Klotz, Biologist
Dr Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology
Dr Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology
Dr John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry
Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics
Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology
Dr John G. Leslie, biochemistry, molecular biology, medicine, biblical archaeology
Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics
Dr Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist
Dr Alan Love, Chemist
Dr Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist and microbiologist:
Dr John Marcus, Molecular Biologist
Dr George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher
Dr Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist
Dr John McEwan, Chemist
Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics
Dr David Menton, Anatomist
Dr Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist
Dr John Meyer, Physiologist
Dr Albert Mills, Reproductive Physiologist, Embryologist
Colin W. Mitchell, Geography
Dr John N. Moore, Science Educator
Dr John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer and Dentist
Dr Henry M. Morris, Hydrologist
Dr John D. Morris, Geologist
Dr Len Morris, Physiologist
Dr Graeme Mortimer, Geologist
Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
Prof. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering
Dr Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher
Dr David Oderberg, Philosopher
Prof. John Oller, Linguistics
Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
Dr John Osgood, Medical Practitioner
Dr Charles Pallaghy, Botanist
Dr Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
Dr David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon
Prof. Richard Porter
Dr Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
Dr Albert E. Pye, invertebrate zoology, biotechnology, biological control (1945–2012)
Dr John Rankin, Cosmologist
Dr A.S. Reece, M.D.
Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
Dr Jung-Goo Roe, Biology
Dr David Rosevear, Chemist
Dr Ariel A. Roth, Biology
Dr John Sanford, Geneticist
Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist
Dr Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist:
Dr Ian Scott, Educator
Dr Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist
Dr Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry
Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science
Dr Mikhail Shulgin, Physics
Dr Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist
Dr Roger Simpson, Engineer
Dr Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
Dr E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist
Dr Andrew Snelling, Geologist
Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science
Dr Timothy G. Standish, Biology
Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
Dr Esther Su, Biochemistry
Dr Charles Taylor, Linguistics
Dr Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
Dr Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
Dr Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
Dr Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry
Dr Royal Truman, Organic Chemist:
Dr Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist
Dr Joachim Vetter, Biologist
Dr Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer and Geologist
Dr Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer
Dr Keith Wanser, Physicist
Dr Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology)
Dr A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
Dr John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist
Dr Carl Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr Lara Wieland, Medical doctor
Dr Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist and archaeologist (1923–2012)
Dr Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist
Dr Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist
Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics
Dr Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Ph.D., Creationist Aerospace & Mechanical Engineer
Dr Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics
Dr Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology
Dr Patrick Young, Chemist and Materials Scientist
Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography
Dr Henry Zuill, Biology


16 posted on 07/17/2015 9:09:03 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Just mythoughts

All souls were created at the same time??

Where is that in the Bible?


17 posted on 07/17/2015 9:09:16 AM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: arthurus

“Al others are, at best, hobbiests. “

Maybe all the others can spell words in the English language as well.


18 posted on 07/17/2015 9:10:39 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Arm_Bears
Steve Austin, this Steve Austin, is one of the thirty. If you have visited the Grand Canion and are able to read his non peer reviewed writings and videos without seriously injuring your self laughing, you are too far gone to critically read hypothesis. Seriously, take his idea about the rate and manner of fossil deposition. "“And that is what happened to the nautiloid shells. They were deposited quickly, frozen in time. One in every seven is standing vertical in the bed. The others tend to point the same way indicating the direction of the slurry flow. It’s a very interesting arrangement of fossils.” The "tip" of the nautiloid shell is rather the heaviest part of the shell and settles most rapidly when the creature died while above the bed of the ocean. So it's to be expected that a portion of the shells would look like javelins stuck in the mud of the sea bed. I've known hundreds of geologist, geophysicists, geological and mining engineers over the years and not one thought there was any merit in young earth creationism. The age and deposition of rocks is part and parcel of their trade. If these fundamental theories and laws are untrue, how come the work so well and accurately?
20 posted on 07/17/2015 9:14:12 AM PDT by JimSEA
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